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Grain entrapment is scary.
I used to work for a big grain company for a short period of time. They expected people to go walk on that sometimes. I know of 2 deaths while I was there.
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I live in a town surrounded by a lot of farms. This does happen on occasion.
So what do you do in this situation that you’ve fallen in to grain?
I imagine you might still be able to breath if you can keep your mouth covered.
Edit: I’m getting downvoted because I’m not familiar with grain suffocation? Ok there. 🙄
Edit again: oh they stopped. Thanks for not being jerks, everyone!
Not much. You really shouldn’t be going into grain bins, and if you you do get stuck you should call for help and shut off anything that’s making the grain move. If you have to go into the bin for some reason, there should be someone outside with you and you should have a safety rope to help pull you out. Covering your mouth won’t help for long if at all. Someone will need to put up fans to ventilate the bin. You will suffocate in a grain bin and I’ve lost friends who went into bins.
https://www.ndsu.edu/agriculture/ag-hub/publications/caught-in-grain
God damn that’s fucking terrifying
Has the Internet forgotten Witness ? Harrison Ford as Amish, come on!
Amishson Ford
That was really well written and horrible!
That “Never give up!” at the end, though.
You’d think by now there would be some kind of emergency quick release or some such. I don’t know what but in any other industry I feel like there are regulations in place so the murder box has some safety features.
I’d imagine it’s just one of those things where the safety feature for the murder box is just properly labeling the murder box, and making sure people who go in it are covered in ropes and safety equipment to pull them out if it starts murdering them.
Like people who have to go work in confined spaces like sewer tunnels. You can’t really put safety gear into the tunnel, so you have to just make it hard to get there, label it, and make it possible to quickly get people out when it goes wrong.
True true, very good points. And apparently the murder box was indeed labeled.
and make it possible to quickly get people out when it goes wrong.
I think this is the part that needs work. If the only real solution is to cut a big hole in the side of the thing to let the grain out, maybe I don’t know, a door? Like an emergency hatch that can be opened from the outside? Or even with a remote that the person inside could have on their person before entering. The remote could even be pressure activated so if pressure of the grain is crushing you it will automatically open the hatch.
I think they use a rope harness that keeps you from going down too far, and then they basically need to come dig you out if you do get pulled it.
That’s what I was implying with the sewer worker comparison, since they don’t get an escape hatch, just a harness, rope, and winches.I’m willing to bet if you flipped to the next page after this diagram, it would say something along the lines of “and that’s why you always wear your harness”.
My guess would be that a door at bottom wouldn’t be able to let out enough material to free someone trapped at the top before it jammed up. When they empty them they only don’t jam because something is taking the grain away.
Nope. There’s no way for air to get down there. It doesn’t filter through the grain. If it did, moisture would get in too.
If they don’t get you out quickly, you suffocate.
Every once in a while you read a story of someone that survived, it’s usually because they had a mask of some sort that filtered enough air through the grain so they could breathe. Like this guy: https://www.agweb.com/news/livestock/pork/descent-hell-farmer-escapes-corn-tomb-death
Sounds horrible!
Can’t remember the video where I saw this (maybe smarter every day?) but if you’re not completely submerged they can use a tube/barrell they shove down around you and start scooping it out to release you.
Most important thing is to swim with the grain instead of against if otherwise you’ll drown. Thus the saying about “going against the grain”
downvoting isn’t a sign of hate, but people ranking down a wrong statement.
maybe you’d rather more disinformation all over Lemmy?
Asking questions and speculation is not misinformation. If you thought I was an expert on the subject based on that comment, that’s on you.
It’s what you call a conversation. You know, what social media is supposed to be for.
I want to be corrected, so I can learn.
Not even “wrong” statements per se, just something that doesn’t contribute to the conversation.
There was a guy who got stuck in his grain silo and before calling authorities he made a tiktok that showed him sinking every time he took a breath or moved in anyway. He was surprisingly calm but you could hear panic slowly wave over him as he spoke about how fucked he was. He was later rescued alive and made a very short video saying he survived.
Wouldn’t you want literally anyone there while doing that, or rig up some rope or something to help not die?
Growing up in a rural farm area, this was not an entirely unusual thing to occur. That always surprised me a little, seeing that it was talked about regularly and a known hazard. It was known well enough that, though I was never a part of the agricultural crowd, I knew the danger silos posed.
I grew up in a dairy farming community, drowning in slurry pits was the way to go there. Scared me witless as a kid.
Do not let a woman who decorates her buttocks deceive you, By wily coaxing, for she is after your granary;
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Perfect reminder for you to watch Barry if you haven’t yet.
A quiet place is also relevant to grain facts
That scene fucked me up. I couldn’t lift my jaw off the ground for maybe a solid hour.
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Wasn’t there a plot point like that in that film about the Australian dressmaker?
Great, now I’m thinking about and dreading the existence of grain voids.
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This is my kind of joke lmao
You won’t BLEVE what can happen on the farm!
“This is my silo. My farm. My grains.”
There are many grains like this grain but this grain is … now in my lungs.
*RADIOACTIVE BREATHE IN SFX
Thank you for this info, I will no longer skinny dip in grain silos.
What?
In a grain silo, the top layer may appear hard and it may appear that everything is solid below you. However, there could be voids and the grain underneath is still loose. You can easily break through, get trapped, and suffocate in grain. This image actually appears to be from the wikipedia I came to link, heh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_entrapment
It can also explode
It only takes two seconds to three seconds to become helpless in flowing grain
IT ONLY TAKES TWO SECONDS TO BECOME HELPLESS IN FLOWING GRAIN
3 minutes to suffocate as well According to the Wikipedia your only chance of survival in that situation is to attempt to find or create a airpocket
One guy whom had a dust respirator was trapped for 5 hours sliping in and out of consciousness sounds terrifying not having control of your limbs stuck upto your head in grain alone in the freezing pitch dark and the risk of hypothermia or suffocation looms over you what a way to go
I wonder how much adrenaline your body can produce. I’m not looking to find out. Some people, though. Like people who go snow boarding/skiing on remote mountains and get trapped in the snow.
Yeah I am not looking to find out either and it sounds like a miserable way to go out. But I also like skiing.
So personal tip, you can spit to figure out which way you are oriented because being upsidedown cclan cause you to lose consciousness faster from blood pooling in your head. If you are trying to flex to keep blood flowing, you can try to wiggle your wrists and arms slowly to pack the snow and see of you can push against it but you can risk slipping in further.
And if you are deeply in the wilderness give people your exact schedule and wear a device that allows for people to locate you without you having to do anything. Honestly the same can be said for working near or I’m grain bins
It’s a real thing.
No pain, no grain
No grain no gain
New irrational fear unlocked.
It’s not irrational. Grain silos are fucking scary. People die all the time. Grain is also very flammable.
Right? Like it’s irrational if you don’t live or work near a farm but if you do… Man you hear about silo deaths way to often, children being one of the worst ones you see in the news
That’s why I said irrational. Because I live in a city and there’s no grain silos anywhere near me and even if they are I’m not working on a farm.
Ain’t just flammable. Flour is often combustible and silos often explode.
this post gives me anxiety lol
This drove me bonkers in that movie “A Quiet Place”. The physics of the grain were constantly changing on them, at first they were sinking, then the alien was on it fine, then they were on it fine, then they were sinking. It was a debacle and it may have bothered me more than it should have due to the dozens of other plot holes and innacuracies in the movie.
Wouldnt a net across say 5’ from max full severely hinder grain-drownings?
And obstruct grain flow and eventually rip off, entangle and completely obstruct, if not fuck your machinery down the process chain.
The correct solution is wearing a security harness with a cable secured to a hook and having a second person outside the dangerous area to provide help and call for more help.
And i would be suprised if that isnt mandated by law or binding security standards already. Deadly incidents at grain silos, manure bunkers and so on are always the result of violating already existing security practices.
