An Xbox player was given a year-long ban for recording nude scenes in Baldur’s Gate 3.
Any clips you record on your Xbox are uploaded to Microsoft’s servers by default and may be automatically flagged as explicit content, as /u/Daddy-Vegas on Reddit found out when he automatically received a combined 390 day (4+21+365) suspension from Xbox Live for three clips he recorded.
His first appeal was apparently rejected, but subsequent appeals led to his ban being lifted after the gaming press picked up the story.
That’s dumb as shit, why does Microsoft even allow mature games on their platform if their platform doesn’t allow mature content. Sure, record blood and guts, but dont show a nipple or a penis unless it’s exploding in a shower of gore!!! What a fucking disgusting standard we have that gore and violence are celebrated but anything sexual, even simple nudity is some kind of felony offense.
Still gets me that in GTA:San Andreas they had hours and hours of non-stop killing and gore - but it was a a low-poly blurred sex scene that was only available if you manually cracked the game files that made it go down in infamy.
Hillary Clinton literally promoted a fucking dumb fucking law in response to the Hot Coffee mod, along with “blue dog democrat” (read: Not So Secret Republican) Joe Lieberman. Thankfully the bill failed.
Leiberman literally used his votes to stand in the way of progress. He’s literally why we don’t have a Public Option for the ACA, which is the only thing that would have made the ACA actually worthwhile.
People to this day still lose their shit over the 2016 election and don’t understand why people hated Hillary Clinton and blamed it all on a “right wing propaganda machine.”
I guess they entirely forgot the absolutely fuck stupid shit she did in congress, like this.
This kind of shit showed her to be not only out of touch, but completely misunderstanding how unused code on a gaming console was such an unlikely thing to be leaked to kids to begin with. In her own dumbshit words, Hot Coffee was a “nothingburger.”
Sorry for the derail, I just always kind of feel like people forgot about this entirely.
“People to this day still lose their shit over the 2016 election and don’t understand why people hated Hillary Clinton and blamed it all on a “right wing propaganda machine.””
I voted for Hillary in the general because fucking obviously. But she was such an arrogant shit-head through the whole election. I remember watching her boastfully declare that she wouldn’t listen to Bernie supporters because she didn’t need their vote. She’s like the anti-Biden. That’s when I started to be worried that she would let Trump win. Fuck her. She’s out of touch and thinks it’s a virtue.
Exactly. Wasn’t about to vote for a dipshit like Trump, but she was being downright abusive to Democratic voters.
She promoted Trump with her “pied piper” strategy because she was so sure he would be the easiest to beat in the general election.
Then she won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College in a bunch of states she didn’t campaign in and people on her campaign (including her own husband) had argued she needed to go do stump speeches in those states.
She absolutely thought it was “her turn” and that the DNC owed her for essentially bailing them out when they were broke.
In court, the DNC didn’t even argue that they didn’t put their finger on the scale for Clinton, they argued it was legal for them to do that because the DNC is a private club, which means they make their own rules, and if they break their own rules, the only people they have to answer to is themselves.
Later in the hearing, attorneys representing the DNC claim that the Democratic National Committee would be well within their rights to “go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way.”
What’s that old saying about if the facts aren’t on your side, argue the law, if the law isn’t on your side, argue the facts, and if neither is on your side pound the table and yell?
The DNC never tried to make the argument that they didn’t put their finger on the scale for Hillary Clinton because they would have been found to have definitely done so during discovery proceedings.
The facts weren’t on their side so they argued the law, which is that “We’re a private club, so NYEAH. Go fuck yourself.”
The DNC let trump win. They’d rather lose and hand the country over to a psychopathic narcissist, with 7 bankruptcies, 26 open sexual assault cases against him, a history of fraud, and a recorded declaration of his sexual assault, than win with Bernie. Democrats really need to reflect on the reality of that scenario. The Democratic National Convention would rather have a deranged republican in office than a Democrat with a few socialist ideas. That says a lot about what their real agenda is. All the hot button topics they drone on about are distractions.
I voted for Bernie. The DNC absolutely supported Hillary in the same way that they almost always support incumbents.
Having said that, the polls were favorable to Bernie. There are a lot of moderate and conservative Democrats, and they absolutely come out to vote.
Bernie lost the primary and would have lost to Trump in the general the moment Trump ramped up the socialist messaging. And unlike some others like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie does not hide from the socialist label. He embraces it, for better or worse.
It doesn’t make me feel better about Hillary. But that’s who Democrats chose.
Democrats are so terrified of being labeled socialist, they refuse to consider the fact that most Americans support socialist democratic policies in all but name.
Bernie lost the primary thanks to DNC antagonism, but he would have destroyed Trump. He was the only one who could have. His election events dwarfed Hillary’s, rivaled Trump’s, and kept growing. Donny was so terrified of Bernie that he refused to engage with, and barely ever mentioned him.
Donald Trump constantly talked up Bernie because he knew it create animosity and he wouldn’t actually win. I love Bernie and I support him, his supporters are very passionate and they show up. But moderates are the majority of the Democratic party and they’re harder to convince. It doesn’t matter if your supporters are more passionate if the casuals don’t like the brand.
Trump was pretty unpopular amongst casuals, there are many candidates who could have beaten him. Hillary could have beaten Trump if she had taken the election seriously. Biden too. Maybe Bernie could have as well. But the whole dynamic would have changed if Trump was antagonistic against him instead of Hillary.
i remember when she said she was so far ahead in the polls she didnt even think of trump
and tweeting a happy birthday future madam president to herself
hilarious
one reporter straight up lied and said the hot coffee mod was a multiplayer game where whoever rapes the most people wins
its not multiplayer, and all sex is consensual. what a bonehead
I think it’s because violence is commonplace in everyday life, a part of human nature, from wars to gin violence but icky weird sex stuff is not.
Wouldn’t it be the opposite? I’d think most people are more likely to have had sex than having killed a person. Maybe it’s because they think sexual content might actually lead kids to want to have sex.
Nevermind that these games are not rated for children to begin with, so who is buying it for them?
Maybe not on here, to be fair, lol.
Literally gamer moment
“What do you MEAN horrific violence is less normal than missionary sex??!?!!”
There are WAY MORE people having consenting sex in the privacy of their own homes versus people going on murder rampages.
Removed by mod
The pearl clutching “think of the CHILDREN” in the media was ridiculous, like you said it is a thoroughly violent and gory game. It was a legitimate legal issue for Take2, Rockstar, and the ERSB however. The ESRB is a voluntary ratings organization like the MPAA, who work with publishers and retailers to provide consumers with accurate info.
Rockstar lied on the ESRB paperwork and shipped the CD with content that wasn’t disclosed. Irregardless if it required a crack or not, that is what was delivered, and that was a big deal. Huge breach of contract by Rockstar and/or Take2, and loss of trust from retailers towards ESRB ratings.
You can literally hire hookers, fuck them, then beat them to death and take your money back. But showing some skin is the issue? What an odd society we have.
When I used to work at a video game store, I used to try and dissuade parents from buying their 10 year old GTA 3/VC.
“So you can just walk down the street and shoot a random person, then when the cops show up, you can just shoot all of them as well.”
Oh, well they probably see worse things on TV!
“Uh huh… you can also pick up a hooker, drive to a secluded area, have sex with them, pay them, and then run them over when they leave to get your money back.”
Wait, it also has sex?!
Thank the Christians
No, I don’t think I will.
Yeah they’re real hypocritical dick heads
Being hypocrites is on purpose. It’s an expression of power that they can get away with being a hypocrite.
Deep down, it’s because they want you to know that their plan is for a world where the law protects them but does not bind them, and anyone who isn’t “Christian” enough the law will bind but not protect.
They want you to know that they have power over you because their own hypocrisy don’t matter to them.
That’s an interesting perspective I hadn’t thought of before, and I think you’re right.
I really wish they weren’t, but I also agree with them.
As perplexing as the thought of “blood and gore good, nudity bad” is, legally I can see why Microsoft would take the heavy-handed approach.
If the dude in the article were to, say, share those scenes with somebody under 18 (which iirc is illegal since you’re distributing pornographic material to a minor), it’s probably not crazy of a stretch to say that Microsoft is legally liable for that happening on their platform. Easier to just do a carpet ban all-around to avoid it in the first place.
In which case the ban should have happened upon sharing not recording. I mean if it isn’t clear that the records you make of singleplayer offline games are published online, then banning someone for what they record feels more like moral policing than anything else tbh.
console ownership looks like a worse option everyday. Fuck microsoft also
You don’t really own a console. Just look what happened to Sony owners and the content they paid hard earned money for on their consoles. Microsoft and Nintendo are not outliers here. The PCMR “weirdness” the guy above was complaining about is also not walled off from this bullshit. Thanks to Microsoft.
However PCs have a solid chance with gaming becoming more and more embraced by the Linux community.
it’s worth remembering that this is just an xbox thing, the pc master race weirdness isn’t needed
edit, just to ask you to be better lemmy community, we’ve totally lost everything that was good about this place and now it’s just become a mirror of modern reddit.
i know this falls on deaf ears, and just causes more people to press the angry down button immediately, but all I ask is that you try to be better and foster a better community.
Criticises somebody by claiming their point is just “pc master race weirdness”, an implication which usually means they’re behaving in a narrow minded, arrogant way
Then proceeds to make a 2 paragraph edit requesting everyone else who’s downvoted their negative behaviour behave as a better community (doubling down on being patronising, I’ll call it)
Very hypocritical, absolutely hilarious, and not self aware at all
usually means they’re behaving in a narrow minded, arrogant way
nope not saying that, that’s something you made up. I said pc master race weirdness, where everything not pc is described as being inferior to the goal, which is pc only.
this kind of thing kills communities, and breeds the hivemindness you see on reddit. I don’t’ care about the downvotes because literally they mean nothing on lemmy. I care that this community has drastic shifted to the hivemind circlejerk you find on reddit in the past few weeks/months. And that this is a good example of it playing out.
I know you won’t like this and we’ll get right back on pressing the angry no button immediately, that’s a thing. But I’m hoping the people here can sit back and try to understand that the weirdo reddit stuff, i don’t know, do we have to spread it here? it just sucks to see.
Interesting to see you view a hivemind when in fact it’s just the actual community disagreeing with your negative attitude and behaviour.
Did you mean “pc master race weirdness” in the non-existent positive constructive way? I didn’t make anything up, I attributed an implication to your words from the way they’re usually used.
You’re the problem you are arguing against and are too defensive and narrow minded to simply admit it
It is, it’s not like Sony is any better
literally sony has never done this, no one has done this aside from microsoft, I thought this community was better than this crap but i guess you can’t stop the reddit from infesting everything
Sorry mate, that’s just not true.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/4/23988621/sony-playstation-account-ps5-bans-permanent-suspension
yes they have banned accounts, they haven’t banned accounts for uploading videos? steam has banned accounts too is that bad? what’s the bad thing here.
you can’t stop the reddit from infesting everything
The call is coming from inside the house!
I think the community downvoting you for being rude is completely fine bud
it’s worth remembering that this is just an xbox thing, the pc master race weirdness isn’t needed
this is rude to you?
When literally no one mentioned pc masteranything, and you accuse people of being peak reddit after comparing a random comment to a shitty community stereotype?
Yes, sweetie, thats rude.
I am not a pc masterrace guy, Something as simple as online gaming getting put behind a subscription is not okay and I will not pretend it is. Console experiences are highly curated by the corporations controlling them, you don’t own your device. This is mostly true for windows and mac users too. I am not a pc fan I am a console hater, and maybe a little bit of a linux cultist.
Lol, Microsoft absolutely did not need to spend time making this ‘feature’ and now they get a bunch of bad press for its existence
The great porn firewall is coming if the religious get their way. All these companies are getting ahead of it JIC.
Company with market cap of $2.75 trillion can’t even plan a fucking feature properly and then blames the gamers for their own fucking stupidity.
Also, I’ll honestly be shocked if MS views this as “bad press” since it was only a few years ago that they ignored all the bad press when it come to banning Minecraft players for things they said in their own private servers.
That still happens, the bad press stopped happening, but people still lose access to Minecraft for what they do in private worlds that are “friends only.”
I think people wanting to say horrible stuff on their own server is disgusting, but what’s more disgusting is the weird Microsoft Nanny State that says you can be banned permanently for that…
I expect Microsoft to stand firm that they don’t give a shit about bad press.
To this day I wish Mojang didn’t get bought out by Microsoft
They don’t give a shit. They’re a $2.75 trillion dollar company. People will keep paying them, and they don’t have to change anything. These types of issues are nothing to Microsoft. They couldn’t care less.
From what I’ve seen, there’s an easy-to-use fanmade way to turn it off, and those smart enough to run a server have it off.
people still lose access to Minecraft for what they do in private worlds that are “friends only.”
The chat reporting help page also lays out that reports must be initiated by a player and will be reviewed by the moderation, which should hopefully limit the false-report problems sometimes associated with more automated moderation systems.
If that happens I guess your ‘friend’ reported you.
Honestly, Nazis and shitty people use those crevasses to hide their plots and they don’t deserve nice things or safe spaces.
I agree, but I also don’t think the solution is surveillance either. It shouldn’t be our go-to solution to to read everyone’s messages because some people are douchecanoes.
I agree with you, but that is the solution that people in power have put in place. Even the government unconstitutionally monitors everything. This is the world we live in now.
Edit: autocorrect
Are you also one of the people who would ban all pornography because a teen might watch it somewhere, somehow?
More surveillance and control is not the answer. In fact, it’s never the answer, unless the question is “what is an overbearing infringement on civil liberty?”
And you believe the tools of oppression will never be turned on the Left?
Even though it’s regularly turned on the left way more often than Nazis?
As much as it sucks, eliminating safe spaces for Nazis results in eliminating safe spaces for everyone.
Corporations don’t pretend to care about minorities because they think they have inherent value to their lives, they pretend to care about them, because they figured out that not catering to minorities is leaving money on the table. Corporations don’t like not completely owning an entire market.
The same reason they started giving a shit about women, racial minorities, and LGBTQA+ people is the reason they still market to Nazis.
They don’t care what your politics are, they don’t care if you’re Red or Blue. The only thing they care about is the Green money in your pocket.
They won’t root out Nazis because they won’t purposefully choose to not take Nazi money.
I guess if he disabled auto upload captures to Xbox live he wouldn’t have been banned. Microsoft wouldn’t dare ban players for captures they only keep locally.
Still this is a huge fuckup from Microsoft, I hope they reverse this.
Banned from what exactly? Just banned from uploading videos? Banned from all xbox live stuff? Banned from using the console full stop?
From the post:
as of now; I can’t play any game that requires a network connection (Basically making all the money I put into MW3 over the last 6 months even more worthless)
Huh, I didn’t see that in the article (maybe my anti-adblock-blocker cut it out), thanks!
That’s really shit, another warning against the walled garden of console gaming I guess.
A warning against any dependence on software you don’t “own”, basically. Being VAC banned, which has also been known to happen to people by mistake, is also a way to cut people off from their purchases which are predominantly online.
So the majority of PC players who use Steam are just as likely to fall into the same situation as the person in the article on Xbox if they’re not careful, too.
And specifically, something to be mindful of for games with server reliance. VAC bans happen on games with valve servers, so any multiplayer game puts you at the mercy of these systems.
A bit of a difference here. From what I recall, a VAC Ban only affects games that actually use Valve’s Anti Cheat, hence the name, which is not so popular anymore as far as I know. And they’re supposed to only affect that game individually (but since they’re public, other game/server owners can decide to ban you too).
Getting an Xbox Live or PSN ban will prevent you from playing any game that relies on the respective service’s network (which they enforce for any game that has online multiplayer in it).
I got banned for using the looking for group tool to find help for a boss in elden ring last year. I think the post title was “astel, star friend”.
Considering how offensive this was, in retrospect it’s amazing that the ban only lasted a few hours (/s)
Although I didn’t get a ban I did have a screenshot removed that I took in gtaV off of the rockstar website. I ran into a completely naked man in the hills with his junk hanging out and took a picture in game.
Huh. I wonder what will happen if you do the same on PC.
