• Cnaiur@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Hey if paying for a game isn’t owning it, pirating it isn’t stealing it

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      10 months ago

      Coming up next: Gamers whining that studios don’t put as much effort and time into game development anymore.

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      10 months ago

      Eyyy, it’s that phrase I came up with again! It’s so goddamn great seeing everyone pick it up!

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        10 months ago

        Too bad it’s just factually incorrect, but hey, congrats on the successful meme I guess.

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          Think what you like. The point isn’t intended to be direct. Companies are doing all they can to exert control over us and our products they sell, so we shouldn’t have any place giving a damn about their loss of control over their media.

          Give me the razor and I’ll pirate the blades.

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    10 months ago

    How the fuck is Steam Deck a monopoly? Literally anyone could have made a great Linux based handheld. Anyone still can do it. Only Valve did.

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      10 months ago

      And Valve would probably love for the new handheld to also use the Valve libraries, if that helps them penetrate the market even faster.

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      10 months ago

      They weren’t even the first, Ayn and Ayaneo were making handheld gaming computers well before Valve or the other major companies started to get involved.

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        Actually, there are a few different ones. If you look for pocket PCs or even specific for gaming. The mainstream just didn’t know about it because they don’t have marketing reach.

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        It’s a niche market. Niche markets are always under served.

        As great as the steam deck may be, it’s only going to appeal to a small percentage of gamers. Generally more tech savvy players who frequently travel some distance with enough down time to justify that purchase. Whether that’s commuters or guys who travel for work. Or guys who just want a really expensive controller so they can play from their favorite chair.
        device to play the

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            10 months ago

            Best part.

            Put it to sleep. Took a piss. Picked it up and immediately starting playing again.

            I’d love to see Windows do that. Until they can. It’s a non starter.

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            10 months ago

            On a planet of 7 billion people, conservatively assuming that less than 1 billion game, yes, millions is a small percentage.

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            10 months ago

            As of 2021, there were an estimated 3.24 billion people who played video games, a figure that includes PC, console, and mobile gaming.

            So yeah, the Steam Deck passing the 3 million mark is a small percentage.

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          It actually very likely brought a lot of women to Steam who predominantly played with handhelds because they were indoctrinated to believe PCs are only for “tech savvy men”.

          December 2021 less than 10 % of all Steam users were women. Between 2022, when the Steam Deck was released, and December 2023 the number shot up to 32 %.

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      I love that all it takes to beat Microsoft is to make an actual, quality product and one that respects the customer. Seems these huge corporations are so bloated and disconnected that they’re actually incapable of making anything worth a damn anymore

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        All it takes to beat Microsoft is to have consistently pumped money and developer time into Linux, wine, mesa, radv, vkd3d, dxvk (each significant in their own right) plus an OS or two for over 10 years now. It’s really easy!

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        I also find it hilarious when Asus comes along with the Ally trying to claim a piece of the pie, only to fry their own SDs with their flawed design. Later Valve R&D comes out with the refined OLED model effectively nullifing any lead the Ally had.

        This all while Proton continues to free gaming from windows and open it up to more OSes and hardware for the benefit of all with contributions upstream to WINE.

        Valve even salvaged everything they learned from the original SteamOS, Steam Link, and controller, then revived it in the Deck.

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          i mean i wouldnt say the gen 1 steamdecks are fully cleared. the gen 1 steam deck is sensitive to the power consumption of the ssd you put in, which isnt a problem with the new oled version. Valve hasnt officially on documentation put out the hardware requirements of the SSD as of yet.

          there have been users who have fried their ssd power circuitry over time because of that mishandling.

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      Remember that a monopoly is a monopoly and unless it’s a State corporation, you’ve got no say in the way it’s run.

      Valve could turn around and start implementing bullshit and they would be in a position that you would pretty much have no choice but to give up on the ease of access to all your games if you decided not to do business with them anymore or they could decide to ban you for one reason or another and you would lose everything you purchased from them.

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          They are, you don’t need 100% of a market to be considered a monopoly, just a big enough share that you’re considered to be the default option.

          Valve are actually getting sued for having anti competitive provisions in their contracts preventing devs from selling their games for less on other stores.

          I also doubt you wouldn’t complain about Valve if they made you want to drop the service, they don’t necessarily need to ban you for you to regret your decision to only buy from them, it could simply be a scandal about internal issues or them introducing features your disagree with to increase their profits (which they could do considering their position in the market).

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    Monopoly? More like, the choice that doesn’t suck. Same game store for last 20 years. Free online play for games. FPS games support mouse and keyboard. No OS fee or subscription. Crazy cheap deals with stuff like humble bundle. Plus: sharing library with friends and family supported. Meanwhile Xbox 360 store is closing this year. Microsoft, Nintendo and PlayStation are all trying to get me to subscribe to a Netflix style gaming service.

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    10 months ago

    Considering the amount of PC portables releasing these days and the fact Nintendo made a portable that sold 9 figures, I wouldn’t worry about a monopoly just yet

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        10 months ago

        Gamecube was absolutely a miss. It was neck-and-neck with the Xbox, and may have even been beaten out. To think, that was Microsoft’s first console. Also, the Nintendo 64 was beaten completely by the first Playstation, which was also a first console, but for Sony. If anything, Wii and Switch are the odd ones out depending on where you want to set the cutoff.

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    10 months ago

    Valve is a massive company because they put their customers first, go figure.

    It’s not a monopoly, most pc gamers choose to use steam because of the significantly better user experience it offers vs the competition

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      I don’t know why you have any downvotes. Everything you wrote is true. Steam has a very nice user experience, but if you don’t want to use it, GOG, Epic, and retail still exist as a means of buying PC games. It just so happens that Steam makes the whole process painless.

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        The “steam is a monopoly” thing is really drilled in deep in some people. Meanwhile I just finished guardians of the Galaxy and outer worlds from the epic store freebies. Entirely on my steam deck. I also installed some other games from gog and put on my captain hat and hook and installed some repacks using bottles. You aren’t forced to use steam, apart from if you want to use game mode and control customizations which will work regardless of game sources. You lose essentially nothing by using other stores, apart from your money and achievements I suppose…

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      10 months ago

      It’s so funny when you remember what people said (or better: screamed) when Steam first came into existence… It was pretty much the opposite of what you wrote in your post.

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      I switched from mostly Playstation to mostly Steam slowly over the last decade cause I like their services. It just works. I explicitly at this point won’t get a computer game that isn’t on Steam. I own one of the little physical Steam Links and cant believe it’s still supported by Vavle. Steam Deck was the final nail. I once didn’t like a game and got a refund on it. I have made older games playable and comfortable with the controller custom configurations. My older games and game saves still work on my new PC’s cause it’s all mostly backwards compatible. I love the Guide, Discussions, and Community Content parts of Steam. It adds so much life, answers questions, builds camaraderie, for some games.

      With Playstation, the 2011 hack was bad enough. Being a day 1 Vita adopter, I feel forgotten and taken advantage of. I’ve had to deal with Sony repairs before and didn’t get my console back for months. Before Sony introduced 2FA far too late, my account got hacked. Sony rep’s treated me like a criminal and only gave me my account back because I so happened to still have the unfunctional console (and serial number) I originally created my PSN account on like 6-8 years earlier. PS4 initially lacked basic features PS3 had. PS5 has done the same. The games hardly drop in price relative to PC games. Backwards compatibility is questionable every generation. I signed up for PS Now to stream PS3 games and a month later they changed it and stopped adding more PS3 games. The PS Portal and proprietary wireless only further shows how stupid Sony is.

      I’ll never buy another Playstation again.

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        I was REALLY into PS4 (also have a switch and PC) but the PS5 just doesn’t have that je ne sais quoi for me. Nothing, other than graphics, that PS5 is doing couldn’t have been done on PS4.

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    I mean, they worked really hard for this and did tremendosly improve linux gamig while doing so.

    Having a monopoly because your product is too good comoared to everyone is something different than forcing a monopoly with market power, and I think that in this case it could be okay

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      Having a monopoly because everyone chooses to purchase from you is not “having a monopoly”, so not only should it be ok, it should be a wake up call to the competition that they can and should do better.

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      And I love how it’s the opposite of other console approaches.

      Everyone else: “let’s rope some devs into exclusives, and make some more in house, that’ll lock them in!”

      Valve: “let’s develop improvements to OSS publicly, so it runs better on PC for everyone (and our product)”

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        Microsoft came crawling back. EA came crawling back. Ubisoft came crawling back. Square Enix came crawling back. Activision came crawling back. Most viable competitor can’t turn a profit despite third-party exclusives and free games.

        Now they’ve got handheld users and the entire Linux gaming community suctioned onto Gaben’s tits.

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        Yeah i like its even open for non steam game launchers ( epic games etc… ).

        And the trackpads are my favorite, its so easy to scroll or move the cursor with them. They even have a super long charging cable. Its just valves baby, you know it when you have one.

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        EPIC GAMES: Why will no one buy games from me 😭? The market is unfair!

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          The steamdeck could theoretically install epic games launcher!!! So if the user wants epic games on it then do it ;D

          But because epic games doesnt have really good controller support or steam input support it is not so good. But you could just add the games to your steam library ;D

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            I get all that. But if both companies will the games, then why bother with epic, steam gives a lot more than just the game. Epic is a half baked experience.

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              Thats true too + epic games had some hmmmmm moments.

              The only real epic games only gmae you get is fortnite.

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    I don’t think the current mobile gaming monopoly is going anywhere. Switch or deck are tiny compared to phones.

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      i think of phones as tools, not gaming consoles or computers

      of course because games on it are either money grabs or used to waste time, rarely is a phone game an actual game

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      Ryujinx and yuzu both work and run well in my experience. Biggest barrier was navigating the deck file structure for setting them up, but not impossible. Both also perform well via streaming from a desktop.

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      I’m out ofnthe loop, but I hear good things about yuzu. There are other emulators, but I don’t remember any (I hear they are also good though).

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        yuzu tends to be more performant, but ryujinx tends to scale with resolution options better. on strictly handheld, most of the time due to the steam decks resolution, there isnt a hard need to scale resolution conpared to the switch so more often then not, yuzu is the no brainer choice.

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    Steam Deck is a step in the right direction but I wish they’d make games