• webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
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        Agreed, hes not exactly clean from wrongdoing but based on the wiki i dont think he was hatefull.

        The controversy was a shock to Walter Lantz, who prided himself on avoiding problems with the censors. He repeatedly stated that his cartoons were never meant to offend anyone. After the 1949 decision, Lantz made a major effort to exclude any offensive caricatures of racial or ethnic groups in his cartoons. He also promised that Scrub Me Mama would never be distributed on television; however, according to eyewitness accounts, the short was broadcast on TV during the 1950s and continued to be seen as late as the 1980s.

        We are going to need a proper conversation about this. People can act a certain way without completly being that way. All racist behavior is bad but I personally draw a line at do they actually carry hate or disdain. Some people are just ignorant and others nondiscriminatory don’t care about anyone thats not themselves which ain’t good either but still not Fascist.

        • deft@ttrpg.network
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          No we don’t need a conversation.

          He’s a product of his time, his ignorance isn’t excusable and he isn’t around anymore so who cares about him or his legacy and creations. He’s racist, he made racist cartoons and we don’t need him or his ilk anymore so move on from them or defending them.

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            Not about him no but in general we do.

            No one is truly black or white. Where all complex and layered individuals.

            Racists/facist are people who hate others.

            Hate is the emotion that makes people want to hurt or even kill when given the chance.

            Everyone can act racist, even you. Especially when this is normalized in your surroundings you may never even realize it is racist. The majority of such people can be helped with better education making them aware of the suffering that systematic stereotypes cause.

            Real racists don’t because they already know. their intention is to hurt. The only way to fix them is with vast therapy.

            Personally i am a far left anarchist. No masters, no slaves, no violence and no borders is my ethos. But if i start calling everyone who is simply worried about immigration a fascist then, i am quickly going to end up with no one to collaborate with.

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        Ah the racist playbook. Even in the 1940s.

        The “Nobody complained to me!” Method

        On October 29, 1948, a representative of Universal wrote to the NAACP. He pointed out that none of the company’s theaters had received complaints concerning the film.

        The “If this passes, you’ll never work again!” method

        McEvoy offered to let the NAACP contact the West Coast offices of the company, but he warned that in consequence for taking action, “removeds” would be prevented from getting work in the industry.

        The “It was just a joke!” Method

        McEvoy pointed out that caricatures of Negroes, Jews, Germans, and Irish used to all be top entertainment.

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        He did other racist cartoons.

        I don’t want to link to them.

        One is called Just Spooks.

        There is absolutely no way, if you watch that cartoon, that you would not think black people would be offended by it. Again, I don’t want to link to it, but it’s available to watch on the Internet if you’re curious. His claim of innocence was just a lie.

        Edit: To whomever downvoted me- Scrub Me Mama With a Boogie Beat takes place in an all-black town called Lazytown where everyone is big-lipped, lazy and stupid but addicted to jazz. They also love eating watermelon. Do you really think Walter Lantz wasn’t a racist piece of shit?

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      The cartoon, you can watch it from the page, is absolutely horrifying. We all know that that kind of stuff existed, but i was still unprepared for how insane it is