Even though I’m on here, I honestly lurk most of the time and don’t fully understand the activitypub vs at protocol war. This was a great explainer that will reach a lot of people. Really appreciate a lot of David’s takes. I hope David and others at MKBHD become aware of and talk about Lemmy soon too.

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      I think leave if your instance federates. Vote with your feet, not much else you can do

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          As much as fediverse development is centered on Mastodon and lemmy, and as much as I want them to succeed, Threads is bigger than both of them combined. FB used their monopoly to leapfrog the rest of the Fediverse here.

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              Yeah, that’s true. But if we consider “the Fediverse” to mean “internet forums that support Activity Pub”, then Mastodon is unforenot the biggest pleyer on the Fediverse in terms of user count, public impact, and funding.

              Of course, Threads can go fuck themselves. Open source communities have no obligation to play megacorps’ games.

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              I dont know what argument you’re trying to make, or what you think I’m saying, but I don’t appreciate you saying I have brain worms. Fuck off.

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              Why are people leaving spaces like Twitter for Mastadon? Why did we leave reddit…to hangout on a smaller, more diminutive lemmy?

              1. User experience.
              2. Privacy.

              That’s just me, personally. Threads federating doesn’t negatively impact either of those.

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          mostly focused on Threads and thinking about the fediverse as an extension/ only making it because of Threads

          Threads is the largest gateway into the Fediverse, by an enormous margin, so that is completely unsurprising. If it hadn’t been for Threads, these people probably wouldn’t even know what the fediverse was.

          What I saw was some tech adjacent content creators with one big name creator as anchor effectively discussing how to colonize the fediverse.

          What statements did you hear that alluded to anything remotely resembling “colonizing the fediverse”?

          They discuss the “social graph” very early on in this episode. This is a huge part of what makes any social network useable, and the most basic reason anyone joins. Threads grows the “social graph” by an enormous margin, and if you don’t want to, you can very easily choose not to participate.

          Yes, Meta is full of bad actors, but they have no power here. AP was specifically designed with that intention.

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      Join an instance that’s already explicitly defederated from them (there are several). Or set up your own.

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    It’s an interesting video and having read the comments there are a few things worth noting:

    1. from a layman’s perspective I understand the focus on threads, for most like it or not it’s the simplest entry point into the Fediverse
    2. its important that this type of podcast is talking about this subject at this time
    3. sure it’s dumbed down, we are not the audience

    It’s no surprise either it was released as Meta did some big fediverse PR yesterday…

    What’s important right now is getting bums on seats, keeping activitypub momentum moving forward.

    Interesting video, hope it spawns more curiosity

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    What protocol war and who cares about it, without asking me to watch a video? I have felt that the main conflict in the fediverse was human disagreement over who should be allowed to discuss what, not about protocols. Look at the current battle about vegan cat food, for example.

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    So a bunch of navelgazers talking with other navelgazers, typical 2024 net.

    It’s hard to know why Meta wants the fediverse: they can already scrape most of the data and it doesn’t pose a threat to them, so why bother EEEing it? Maybe kill it while it’s growing?

    The only useful information i got was that AT supports account migration, that’s cool.

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    Eugh MKBHD. Biggest tech stooge around, what’s the bet this is a puff piece for some company.

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      Why is that? I mean, seriously asking, has there been any report on MKBHD selling out? I do like the content he creates and all the ads he shows are clearly marked as ads.