Hmm, oh well. As long as you found your happy place…

Hmm, well, “works on my computer” is never a helpful comment but I have a heavily modified panel that I moved to the top with no issues.

I’m using the built-in task manager widget rather than a dock. Maybe that’s why?

Mind me asking what distro? And Wayland or X11? Also, which dock?

I’m using Wayland and Fedora (Plasma 6.4) and also had a good experience with NixOS (6.3, also Wayland).

Palestinian babies

Plenty of people in The West^R don’t consider them worthy of empathy, but a white woman of small stature who first became famous as a child might be a different story. We need a mass worldwide cultural shift to identifying all humans as part of the in group or we aren’t going to make it through this century.

It was 2 million across the country, not a single city. Still impressive though.

Italians shutting down their country to defend Palestinians and in America we can’t even strike to defend ourselves.

When’s the last time you tried Plasma? I felt the same way about it as you did until version 6. I’ve been driving it now since 6.2 and its at least as polished as Gnome but with WAY more features and almost infinite customization out of the box.

The only one of your sources that directly contradicts what I am claiming is the Wikipedia line about the source being publicly available. But that is inaccurate. All the major open source licenses require source code be available to anyone who has access to the executable form of the software - not the public in general. So, if some FOSS software is available to download on the Internet without any restriction on its access, then so must the source code. Most FOSS software is distributed this way.

However, if you write software under an open source license, you are not required to share that software with anyone. The license requires you to distribute the source ALONG WITH the software. But it doesn’t require you to make the software freely available to everyone, or anyone.

Tying back to my original point, which has been derailed by myriad people who refuse to read before thinking they know things, I was saying that we don’t need exceptions for military software because it can be licensed as open source without that code being handed over to our enemies. But requiring it to be open source would, for example, preclude the DoD from building kill switches into the F-35s that they sell to our allies, because they’d be required to share the design of the plane’s control systems along with the product - again, only to the people who receive a copy of the product - not to the public at large.

Its not just GPL. MPL, BSD work this way as well. And the original post refers to open source, not “code available to all”. Come back with a commonly used open source license that enforces what you’re describing and maybe you’ll have a point. Otherwise, why are we arguing about things that can just be looked up?

That is simply not true. Go read a few open source licenses and see for yourself. They only require that the source code be distributed with copies of the software itself. The code is not required to be made available to the general public.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. Go read the GPL and you’ll see that’s what it says too.

If the DoD gives some ooen source software to Ukraine they are required to give the source code to Ukraine - not to Russia.

So you didn’t read my comment before replying?

Open source only requires source distribution with binary distribution, so the software can be open source and still not publicly distributed. It just means if its ever declassified, the source will be required to be distributed along with the software itself.

Why? Open source only requires sharing the source when sharing the software. No distribution of software - no distribution of source. But if they are gonna sell software to other militaries or civilian contractors, we have a right to know what they’re selling.

And no, hiding your code doesn’t generally make your software more secure.

Don’t use Windows either.

For a project as big and old and full of legacy code as LibreOffice, I think their interface is pretty great. And its way more customizable than MS Office. Its just not the absolute latest and greatest in styling.

And, if MS didn’t make it so hard to maintain compatibility with their “open” file format, TDF might be able to put more resources into UX. As it is, they have to reverse engineer all the nonconforming BS that Microsoft puts in their OOXML implementation.

For legally free and open software that has to maintain UI consistency across Windows, MacOS, and the plethora of open desktop environments? Yes, yes it is.

That’s all great news. I think they deserve another donation from me.

Eh, I haven’t had that issue in years. Maybe its a problem for office workers who make extremely complicated documents and spreadsheets, but those aren’t the kinds of people I’m talking about.

EDIT: Not implying you’re wrong about M$ fake open standards bullshit, just that I don’t think its a huge concern for the average home user.

So annoyed that just bought a Pixel 8a for Graphene. I thought I’d get to use it til 2030 when it stops getting security patches and now I might not even get a full year out of it.