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  • My understanding of why is that it relates to their change to a scene-referred workflow. Up to v3, darktable used a display-referred workflow like other programs. In that model the image you start with is mapped on a tone curve from the start where 0 is pure black and 1 is pure white, and the midpoint is set to midway between. This is all from the standpoint of what your display can render. The scene-referred workflow in v4 doesn’t do that. All the tones are mapped in an unbounded and uncurved way. So images look flat, but you’ve retained maximum data, so you have more to work with. The developers assume that you want control and maximum fidelity. There’s a better explanation in the intro of the documentation. This impacts everything - especially the color balance.

    One of the problems is that all of the display-referred tools remain as modules in the interface, and some are even used in the base processing, but you’re not supposed to use them. At least if you want to do things the ‘right’ way. We created a custom panel that has 90% of what we regularly use (shared UI with my partner). That plus creating some presets that work well with our cameras has made it very quick to get a satisfying output in a minute or less.

    Honestly, if you want to do minor tweaks to a RAW and mostly want what the out of camera JPEG looks like, there are much easier tools. If you at least occasionally deal with really challenging photos, or you want to get creative in the processing of some of your RAW images, darktable opens up a lot of possibilities, while being free and open source. So I think it’s worth the effort to learn. Shooting with a colorchecker helped us get the presets we wanted for a variety of shooting conditions.





  • My favorite French borrowings are gentle, genteel and jaunty. All borrowed from gentil (kind, pleasant, nice), but at different times (13th century, late 16th, and 17th, respectively).

    The French word is from Latin gentilis, meaning “of the Roman clan.” English borrowed that from Latin as gentile.

    So we have 4 English words, all from the same Latin origin. Of them, genteel is probably closest to the Old French pronunciation (but the vowels are still a little bit different).



  • It’s funny that there are two unambiguous alternatives to bimonthly, but they both mean 2x/month: fortnightly and semimonthly.

    Both German and Dutch distinguish their equivalent words with clear prefixes meaning half- and two-. The English word was unclear after 1066 since the French word bimensuel would have been used by the new bosses. And that means 2x/month. English used bimensual for a while before developing a new, worse word with the Latin origin bi- and the Germanic origin -monthly. And it seems to have been ambiguous from the start. So this has probably been messed up for almost 1050 years.

    Maybe we should resurrect the Old English prefix twi- to make a new(old) 1x/2months word twimonthly or more intuitively, twomonthly that we can use in opposition with halfmonthly.


  • I will gladly die on this hill.

    Obviously! Well done. Your definition is delusional and at odds with science and common language use, yet you won’t back down. That takes commitment. It also has me questioning whether you believe in light outside human perception (since it’s also measured as a wave). You are the embodiment of this fun thread! And I genuinely enjoy thinking about both positions.

    But I think I’ll stick with the Wikipedia and dictionary editors, and the likes of Britannica which states:

    Sound, a mechanical disturbance from a state of equilibrium that propagates through an elastic material medium. A purely subjective definition of sound is also possible, as that which is perceived by the ear, but such a definition is not particularly illuminating and is unduly restrictive, for it is useful to speak of sounds that cannot be heard by the human ear, such as those that are produced by dog whistles or by sonar equipment.


  • I appreciate your hill. But several sources disagree with you.

    Wikipedia: “In physics, sound is a vibration that propagates as an acoustic wave through a transmission medium such as a gas, liquid or solid.”

    Oxford: “1. vibrations that travel through the air or another medium and can be heard when they reach a person’s or animal’s ear.”

    Webster: “1.c: mechanical radiant energy that is transmitted by longitudinal pressure waves in a material medium (such as air) and is the objective cause of hearing”

    Cambridge: “something that you can hear or that can be heard”

    These don’t seem to require the ear for the vibrations to be sounds in and of themselves. Only that it would be detectable by an ear if an ear were present.

    Upon what do you base your assertion that it is the hearing of the thing that is the most essential requirement? (And given the thread I think it’s perfectly reasonably for the answer to be something like “because it’s my hill dammit!”)






  • Ha! Well I was just having a laugh. Expecting that you would prefer “you should damp your expectations” and that my construction should mean “make your expectations wet.” And it turns out dampen is ambiguous. It means both moisten and dull, deaden, make weak.

    Not only that, but most every form carries both meanings, and the “weaken” sense for the word damp predates the “humid” sense. Because the noun came first and it was specific to suffocating fumes in a mine that would extinguish candles, and people.

    So my take now is that dampening means both “making weak” and “humidifying, moistening.” Only damping is specific to motion/energy. And I can’t recall encountering anyone using damping to mean “making wet.”





  • Darktable is fantastic, but the learning curve is steep for great results. It took us months to get comfortable with it after using Capture One, Lightroom, Photoshop/ACR. It’s different. Our first efforts looked like crap.

    For someone processing just a few files I think RawTherapee is probably easier and likely to give better results with limited effort.



  • Yeah, I get what you’re saying. Definitely. It’s not complicated for one pair of speakers in one room. For one music source. For one person controlling it.

    There just haven’t been any better cost-effective solutions with multi-room, control from your any phone convenience. And that’s a big plus for how we listen to music. Today there are a few contenders, but many of them are also cloud dependent. Really the small number of good options in this space is proof of how good Sonos was for a long time. Well and also of Spotify causing people ditch the idea of a offline digital music library.

    Edit: And to be clear, aside from the “any computer networks” part, this is what the original Sonos device did. It could work without a home network, but worked best with a shared music library on a PC. Didn’t need cloud anything, internet connection, account, etc. You just hooked your normal speakers to it and it played music.