Panther Lake and Nova Lake laptops will return to traditional RAM sticks

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    2 days ago

    Reverting to RAM sticks is good, but not shutting down GPU line. GPU market needs more competiter, not less.

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      Intel can’t afford to keep making GPUs because it doesn’t have the reliable CPU side to soak up the losses. The GPU market has established players and Intel, besides being a big name, didn’t bring much to the table to build a place for itself in the market. Outside of good Linux support (I’ve heard, but not personally used) the Intel GPUs don’t stand out for price or performance.

      Intel is struggling with its very existence and doesn’t have the money or time to explore new markets when their primary product is cratering their own revenue. Intel has a very deep problem with how it is run and will most likely be unable to survive as-is for much longer.

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        Intel is too big to fail. And the defense sector needs an advanced domestic foundry. Uncle Sam will bail it out with our tax money.

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          The United States has a few chip fabs that are capable of making military grade hardware. It’s helpful that the defense industry uses chips which aren’t the most advanced possible - they want the reliability mature tech provides. Micron, Texas Instruments, ON semiconductor - there are a few domestic chip companies with stateside fabs.

          Intel is also a valuable collection of patents and a huge number of companies would love to get them. Someone will want to step in before the government takes over.

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        2 days ago

        As a Linux user of an Intel Arc card. I can safely say that the support is outstanding. In terms of price to performance, I think it’s pretty good too. I mainly enjoy having 16GB of VRAM and not spending $450-$500+ to get that amount like Nvidia. I know AMD also has cards around the same price that have that amount of VRAM too though

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          23 hours ago

          That’s interesting, thanks. Can I ask what that vram is getting used for? Gaming, llms, other computing?

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            16 hours ago

            The main things that use up a lot of VRAM for me is definitely doing Blender rendering and shader compilation for things like Unreal Engine. My games probably would use a little more if I had any screen higher than 1080p. The most usage I’ve seen from a game was around 14Gb used

            I haven’t messed around with llms on the card just yet but I know that Intel does have an extension for PyTorch to do GPU compute. Having the extra VRAM would definitely be of help there

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              16 hours ago

              That’s pretty much the lowest that I’ve found too.

              From what I could find, this is the lowest price per GPU manufacturer (For 16GB of VRAM)

              • Intel Arc A770: $260
              • Radeon RX 7600XT: $320
              • NVIDIA RTX 4060 Ti: $450
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        Basically there is only money at the top of the gpu range. Everything else is a budget card with razor thin margins.

        AI specific chips will take off over time but even then the ship is starting to sail . These are mostly data center projects.

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        besides being a big name, didn’t bring much.

        Absolutely wrong. A lot of old and dated information in your post.

        They have something no one else has: manufacturing, and very low price and great performance after recent driver updates. They just lack the driver stability which has been making leaps and bounds.

        I do not think anyone else can enter the market, let alone with an edge.