I really want a Facebook (the old Facebook timeline) replacement, but end-to-end encrypted, and decentralised so there’s longevity.

Edit for clarity: I’m looking for a way to share things online, end-to-end encrypted to a wide-audience that knows you but doesn’t necessarily know each other.

This is why messaging apps don’t fulfil this requirement, and chat rooms (like Matrix) also don’t fit.

I love Lemmy, I like the idea of Mastodon (twitter-like sites just aren’t my thing. ActivityPub rocks. However, none of them are encrypted.

PixelFed is neato, but I don’t plan sharing my personal photos with the whole of the internet, which seems to be the only choice with ActivityPub.

Signal and other encrypted messaging apps are great, but are for direct messaging. Where are the encrypted social media apps?

Matrix is cool and all, but it’s aimed at groups. Like discord / MS teams replacement.

Someone told me about Futo Circles, which seems to tick all the boxes and built on top of Matrix, but it’s currently abandoned.

Are there any other alternatives? My wallet is open, I would very much like to use such an app. I am no programmer, so sadly cannot take on the mantle of continuing the Futo Circles project.

  • Fizz@lemmy.nzEnglish
    16·
    6 days ago

    I personally don’t see the value add of e2e encryption to public posts in a federated social media.

    DMS are the only place I could see it being beneficial.

    • MisterFrog@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      3·
      6 days ago

      Not public posts, rather posts to anyone who you have added. Similar to Facebook

      I’m happy with Lemmy and Mastodon as is as it’s a different purpose.

  • Jupiter Rowland@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    3·
    7 days ago

    The closest you’d get would be with Hubzilla or (streams). Or Forte if it wasn’t experimental with no public instances yet. They even have file spaces with WebDAV on which you can upload files and then define who is permitted to see/access these files or the folders they’re in.

    However:

    What you want isn’t their default M.O. You’ll have to get used to and think yourself into something with a learning curve that’s even steeper than Friendica’s. You’ll have to learn and understand the permissions system, including giving nobody permission to see your connections. Ideally, all your connections would have to be smart enough to know how to to hide being connected to you from the public and to actually do so.

    Encryption is optional and “uninstalled” by default for everyone, and it isn’t even available on all server instances (it’s up to the admin to activate that add-on, and then the user has to activate it, too). Also, it uses passphrases and not automatically generated key pairs.

    Finally, if you insist in using it with a mobile app, you’re completely out of luck. It’s browser or PWA for all of them.

    • MisterFrog@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1·
      7 days ago

      Yeah I’ve seen these photo storage apps, they are neato but not what I’m looking for unfortunately, and I already use Signal for e2ee messaging

      Really wish Futo Circles wasn’t abandoned :(

    • MisterFrog@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      3·
      7 days ago

      Oh neato, thanks for sharing. Hope some other kind soul takes it up (and takes my donation money :3)

  • caos@feddit.orgEnglish
    1·
    7 days ago

    With Friendica you have a picture gallery and can set for each picture whether it should be public or private; same with calendars. However, I can’t say how private it will be from a technical point. You can also define contact circles.

    Here on the Features list it says “Privacy with military encryption” but I don’t know what that refers to exactly.

    The direct messages are definitely more private than with Mastodon (they don’t work with Mastodon). Sharkey / Misskey also have some.

    Here is a good video introduction to Friendica : https://peertube.stream/w/p/1e4ebc30-d582-4067-97d8-3de59bdaf330?playlistPosition=1

      • caos@feddit.orgEnglish
        1·
        7 days ago

        Hubzilla certainly has the most options for privacy. But it is ‘not perfect’. More detailed here (in German):

        "Full disclosure: The encryption that hubzilla uses by default is not absolutely watertight. There are known methods to circumvent it. However, this is very time-consuming and has to be done individually for each channel. And to be clear: Other services store your messages in plain text, so we see this approach as a significant improvement for your privacy. Furthermore, you are always free to use additional encryption and password protection if you wish. To explain this in more detail:

        • each channel has its own key pair
        • every non-public post is automatically encrypted
        • optional password protection for content via crypto javascript, browser-to-browser encryption (must be enabled in settings) Full disclosure: A malicious hub administrator could inject malicious javascript code (e.g. keylogging capabilities) into the code. Encrypt our data with GPG, become a hub administrator yourself, or use other means of communication if that bothers you.

        So what is the scope of security? To put it bluntly, it may be great, but it’s not perfect."