I absolutely believe the Fediverse needs to remain a space built on transparency, autonomy, and equity for users, instance admins, and developers working on ActivityPub. Look at the current state of social media, power and money concentrated in the hands of a few, stifling innovation and undermining trust. The centralized model isn’t just flawed, I think it’s had a devastating impact on an entire generation.

The Fediverse offers us a chance to rethink how the internet should work. It’s not just about being a space for free expression; it’s also about proving that a values-driven model can support those who keep the lights on. My main question is, can we implement monetization that honors our commitment to fairness, transparency, and equity, while still ensuring that the people supporting the network earn a livable wage?

This isn’t about getting rich, it’s about creating a sustainable ecosystem that empowers us all to build and maintain a trustworthy digital space. The Fediverse is already a success in its own right, but to truly evolve and thrive, I would argue we need a resource model that can drive sustainable innovation and meaningful progress.

TL;DR: I’d quit my day job tomorrow if I could secure a living wage from this work. Many in tech whold do the same. Is a monetization model that fairly compensates those who support and sustain the Fediverse possible?

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      Thanks. 😂 Honestly, I hate scammers. I really do. But they’re SO easy to spot.

      I feel that the hivemind threw the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to crypto. Thanks to Do Kwan, Sam Bankman Fried, etc, a whole viable set of technologies aimed at wrestling power from the world bank has been vilified by the hivemind.

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          Scammers:

          • don’t tend to share any of their their source code
          • usually have an initial token allocation where insiders are given early access to more than 15% of tokens. (this one is a CRUCIAL)…Obviously, the best ITA is one where the tokens are 100% available to everyone at once.
          • heavily market their cryptocurrency before it even has a use-case (most projects fall into this category)
          • their governance is centralized to some charismatic Elon-bro that talks about price all the time
          • don’t let you use any wallet you want (self-sovereignty is CRUCIAL)
          • don’t give you access to your keys at all times (again, self-sovereignty)
          • are usually just some governance token or ERC-20 or some quickly minted Solana token ($LIBRA $TRUMP $MELANIA were all obvious scams)
          • never have a viable peer-reviewed white paper
          • their code is NEVER formally verified by neutral parties
          • use technologies that are not auditable
          • use technologies that are not decentralized

          I’ve spotted many scammers a mile away just starting with this list off the top of my head.

          For instance, I am the moderator of infosec.pub/c/midnight and actually locked my own communities until I see the source code.

          I like the tech from what they tell me. But, I can’t, in good conscience recommend it yet because it ticks some of the above scammer boxes.

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            Yet you fail to see the forest for the trees…

            A system that makes it so trivial to scam people, is a system made for (and likely by) scammers, even if it has other good ideas as well.

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              I suspect you should listen to your own counterpoint:

              Don’t walk down the street because someone might rob you.

              Don’t use your computer because someone could hack you.

              Don’t go swimming because it is possible to drown.

              Throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

              An uncensorable ledger not controlled by any one party is (at the very least) a valuable technology with unique abilities despite scammers using it for gambling.

              The digital equivalent of uniqueness is (at the very least) a valuable technology with unique abilities despite assholes using it for Bored Apes.

              Just because you can’t see the use case, doesn’t mean we need to stop innovating.

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                That completely misses the point I was trying to make you understand. But I guess you are a bit too deep in the bezzle to understand it (yet).

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                  Are there obvious, inherent pitfalls to deregulation of anything at all? Yes.

                  Is it absolutely necessary for it to exist? Also yes. Self sovereignty is both dangerous and absolutely necessary…unless you WANT Uncle Sam to be able to put a short time-limit on spending your tax return once they adopt a Central Bank Digital Currency (and they will). With a CBDC controlled by the Fed, we will be subject to money that expires and other features that feel like bugs that go hand in hand with a central power controlling a currency.

                  Agree to disagree then. You don’t seem to grasp my points and I don’t grasp yours. Peace.

                  As my rant above detailed, I’d be happy to give up my belongings if I lived in a truly communist society. But I don’t. So, I hold onto my possessions tightly since it is literally the way I survive.

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        I don’t know if you know this, but in many places obsession over central banks is simply not a thing. Maybe you need some real problems in your life? It would help you gain perspective.

        And btw, the World Bank isn’t actually a world bank in the literal sense of the word.

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          I don’t have time to educate you but:

          • civil asset forfeiture is a thing
          • runaway inflation (and deflation of currencies) due to excessive money printing is a thing
          • the work bank may not officially be a bank but what it is is a giant conglomerate of corporations that owns nations, takes part in coups, assasination, price fixing, and controls the dollar.
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            Did you really think I haven’t heard of this copytext? It’s pretty standard spam, no?

            This is not a real thing, it’s more about acting out and tantrums. You don’t care or understand about the issues you describe.

            With the right oligarch propaganda, you can be trained to claim that spicy mayonnaise is limiting freedumz and shiiiit!!!

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                So what that you’re a leftist?

                You were taking about “educating me” and the best you can come up with is a standard copytext that’s spammed everywhere?

                At least come up with something new and interesting not the standard word salad about the Federal Reserve.

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                  Sometimes things that are repeated over and over again are actually true.

                  Just because you don’t understand how the world works doesn’t make this untrue.

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                    And if you’re incapable of presenting your message even with a modicum of nuance, and you’re forced to revert to comical parroting of what is essentially political spam, then what you’re saying is almost certainly complete BS.

                    Try and promote what you’re saying in a nuanced way. You won’t be able to. We both know this!

                    Prove me wrong! ;)