Okay, this is not an iPhone vs Android Phone debate. I respect your right to choose whichever platform that you want.


I mean, iPhone seems so antithetical with the idea of freedom. You have to connect it to a server to even use it, all apps have to go through a centralized server, no option to install whatever apps you want, which means, you literally cannot have any third-party apps without an online account.

Most of my fellow americans seems to love the idea of freedom so much, yet just buy into a closed ecosystem with no freedom? 🤔

Like almost 60% of Americans use iPhone, kinda weird to preach freedom when you cant even have an app without a corporation’s approval. If it were any other country, I wouldn’t find it weird, but for a country that’s obsessed with the idea of freedom (so much so that they disobeyed mask mandates), it’s really weird to be using a device with zero freedom.

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      You’re not even making an argument, just an assertion. Are you by chance a software engineer? If you really understand what Google is doing on a technical level, there is no comparison. No they are not the same. No Apple is not just as bad. Just think about it, Google makes their money selling businesses ads. Apple makes their money selling you a phone. The incentives are very different.

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          The ads are in the app store and about apps. Googles ads are all over the web and they’ve embedded trackers in every website that call home and tell google what you’re up to. Most android apps also have Google libraries in them that track you. Chrome monitors your off Google activity. Gmail extracts purchase receipts from online shopping and monitors your spending to serve ads. Meanwhile, Apple forced app developers to ask for permission to track users and pissed off the entire tech industry. The two are not the same from a user privacy perspective. Apple also does not have trackers all over the web and does not read your email. Also, $4.7 billion is peanuts to Apple. Their annual is roughly $400 billion. Ads for them are a fart in the wind. Google meanwhile makes 75% its money on ads. I don’t trust them at all.

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      I disagree. Apple might not be perfect, but it is better than Google when it comes to ads and tracking. I know my data is encrypted, both on the device and in my cloud. And in the App Store, it tells me exactly what data is being collected by the apps I choose to install.

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          Apple received the request to add a secret government backdoor and responded by publicly disabling a popular feature to invalidate the request.

          I guarantee you that Google, Microsoft, and others received identical requests, but we’ve heard crickets from them. Implication being everyone except Apple silently complied.

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            I’ll believe that when they shut down their encrypted services in the US, where we know they were compromised by NSA’s PRISM since Snowden.

            You say this like governments mandating backdoors is a new thing that hasn’t been happening.

            The SolarWinds hack literally exploited the backdoors that were required by the US government.

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          Bullshit, this is the exact opposite of what you’re intending to say. UK government demanded a backdoor to secretly invade your privacy. They had no choice. However instead of implementing the back door into your data while leaving you with an illusion of privacy, they publicly announced you have no expectation of privacy in the U.K, they kept their privacy implementation secure and no longer use it in the UK

          Short of leaving the market entirely, what better response could you hope for.? Save your anger for the U.K. government