Really tempting but you can get such good computers second hand these days. I got a Ryzen 9 3950X (a few years old but 16 core and still awesome), with 128 GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD for £325. No way I’m paying 6 times that for a new machine that’s 50% faster at best.
For work, we got some of the HP AI Ryzen Max 390 laptops with 64 gigs of soldered on 8000 MHz DDR5 memory, and holy shit, I have never felt such a snappy, responsive computer.
Like the comparison between my laptop with the 13950X and 64 gigs of memory at 4800 megahertz and this Ryzen ai 390 feels very much like when we first started getting SSDs and making the transition from spinning rust to SSD.
And I know that a huge portion of that is due to the fact that the ram is twice as fast. But still, it is simply snappy. It’s nice, and it makes me jealous that these are not computers for me, but for someone else.
You won’t get the AI stuff through. I’m working on a machine like you described and drilled a hole in it to provide power to a 3070 as the power supply wasn’t beefy enough (and server power supplies are too expensive compared to a hole).
This is the first generation where I can play around with local LLMs from what I can tell - even used the hardware for that is way more expensive :(
I’m just glad to see FW increasing the visibility of SFF form factors
I also really like Small Form Factor form factors
(sorry couldn’t resist)
Framework desktop? Why?
Looking at the form factor, it seems to mostly address typical desktop use without having a full blown workstation with a big tower, which one usually builds and upgrades by oneself.
I’m also not sure, if this niche is the right choice for Framework though…
Edit: the more read about it, the less I see the appeal as well…
Maybe we just aren’t the target audience, but I can’t really figure out, who they want to targetYep. Just read the thing. The RAM is soldered. THE RAM IS SOLDERED (the CPU seems to be as well but I’m not sure).
I don’t think there is a target audience. Seems like someone in the boardroom took a big hit of a giant blunt and went “what if took, like, the laptop design philosophy and, like, apply it to a desktop, but like, modular duuuuuude?”
What’s that panel two under Tux, is that so you don’t have to go all the way outside to touch grass?
I support using an Augustiner Maß for size comparsion.
Is the kind of hardware for AI stabilizing by now? or is it still highly experimental?
Data center? Nvidia, custom TPUs, or GTFO.
Home or small business? All over the map, with different hardware excelling at different use cases.
Someone 3d print a case that allows a bigger cooler so we can have a comp that looks like this: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/exterior-view-drag-racing-car-super-charger-air-intake-classic-car-hood-super-charger-159302695.jpg
Oh man, can’t wait to not be able to buy this either, since framework absolutely refuses to sell to Norway.
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target use case is a server for LLMs where memory bandwidth is very important iirc, not really a desktop for the consumer. this is probably a one off product that was pitched to them by amd
