On Digg there’s some drama because someone registered the community “/wallstreetbets,” and the admins took it from him and gave it to one mod of the subreddit “r/wallstreetbets.”

One day later I see this discussion about how Reddit registered trademarks for some high-profile subreddits.

This could be relevant for the Threadiverse.

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    Someone will register a subreddit, and then a bunch of related ones, so anybody who tries to use any of them has to follow the same set of rules — and if you piss off the wrong person in one, they can ban you from all of them.

    This definitely happens here on Lemme, too. There are asshole mods, here who register a ton of communities, and getting banned from one of them instantly means you’re banned from all of them. Possibly even the entire instance. I’ve seen this in the mod logs where someone has a relatively innocuous comment removed just because the mod disagrees with them, then they are suddenly banned from both that community and 10 or 12 other communities. All run by the same moderator.

    If you think you escaped asshole mods just because you’re switched over here to Lemmy, think again.

    From StumbleUpon to fark to digg to Reddit to Lemmy… Asshole, power-tripping mods are everywhere and aren’t going away.

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        well, the .ml mods never seem to be the “power-tripping” type of asshole. they would argue and were combative and were definitely assholes, but they didn’t seem to quick to ban people.

        The major objection (and why most people left) was because of the explicit political views of the Admins (who also are the main devs for the Lemmy software) and the rampant intolerance of other views by not only them, but the other users of that instance. I ran into users on .ml that were soooo far worse than the shittiest assholes I ever encountered of Reddit or Digg. It’s part of why I’ve switched to PieFed.

        Lemmy does help mitigate this by giving the wider community the ability to sort of sequester the trouble-makers and to easily block them.

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          .ml mods are exactly the type to ban people from every community because they don’t share the exact same viewpoints as the mod in question.

          dbzer0 is getting almost as bad with certain admin and certain topics now too.

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                I haven’t experienced that personally but I trust you with My life, SatansMaggotyCumFart. You’ve always been right about these things before.

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                https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48662871

                https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/43560521

                TL;DR: The dbzer0 community decided to start banning people for downvoting AI generated posts. They said they’d only ban people who come to a community and do mass downvotes, but Ace T’Ken downvoted four AI posts that showed up in the feed across a period of ten months, and was still banned from several communities by a prominent dbzer0 mod. There was also a side plot involving some person or group of people impersonating every major actor involved in the drama, which is why so many comments in the thread are removed.

                There were several other drama threads related to the voting bans:

                https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/50067209

                https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/46410988

                https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49344640

                I remember a few more discussions from back when all this was new, but didn’t have as easy a time finding them.

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                    With a community like Imaginary Witches, a lot of people like seeing cool drawings of witches, as long as they’re by a talented artist. A user might see an AI generated witch as a detriment to the Imaginary Witches community they want to see. Or they might not even realise it’s AI, and just downvote it for being poorly drawn in their opinion. So it makes a lot of sense not to block a community when you’ve only ever seen four bad posts from it over the past ten months.

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            OK, maybe so. I blocked that instance a long time ago, and haven’t kept up on recent goings-on. If you say that it’s gotten worse, I’ll take your word for it.

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                oh, sorry-- .ml

                I haven’t personally run afoul of issues on dbzer0, but I’ve seen others complain about it for a while.

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                    when I first joined up during the reddexodus, I followed the lemmy drama a bit, but I’m really over it by now. after 30+ years of following online community drama, I’m just burned out on it. it’s all so petty and childish, it holds no interest for me anymore.

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          But also when they would ban someone, they would do so from every single community on their instance, including ones that you’ve never even heard of.

          And then never bother to so much as tell you about your being banned.

          And also deny you the ability to appeal or ask questions - e.g. Reddit has both a modmail and the ability to continue discourse directly in a post that has been removed from a community listing. Which as a former mod I would use to communicate rejection reasons and sometimes we’d go back and forth for days talking about the subject further, e.g. ways that the newcommer could modify it as to not piss off the old hands in the community (e.g. NSFW is allowed but must be properly labeled or some such).

          Oh, and soon a change is going to give lemmy.ml veto power on what communities are allowed to be suggested to new instances - and being baked right into the code so there is no way to change that - rather than use a third-party listing. Edit: this proposed change has already been walked back, and while still using a centralized source for that information, at least makes it configurable by the new instance admin rather than hard-coding lemmy.ml as the singular authority (except as the default option).

          I find it highly ironic that in some ways Lemmy, in particular .ml, is more authoritarian than even Reddit.

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            But also when they would ban someone, they would do so from every single community on their instance, including ones that you’ve never even heard of.

            this is what I was talking about earlier. I find it to be an absurdly childish overreaction, and the mods & admins on some communities/instances default to this behavior with a ridiculous amount of entitlement. it’s not hard to see just by looking at the modlogs.

            And also deny you the ability to appeal or ask questions - e.g. Reddit has both a modmail and the ability to continue discourse directly in a post that has been removed from a community listing.

            I find this to be a huge shortcoming of the platform, and something that contributes to a lot of “account churn” where users evade bans my instance-hopping and creating new accounts.

            Oh, and soon a change is going to give lemmy.ml veto power on what communities are allowed to be suggested to new instances - and being baked right into the code so there is no way to change that - rather than use a third-party listing.

            well, fuck that

            just another reason to switch to PieFed

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      . I’ve seen this in the mod logs where someone has a relatively innocuous comment removed just because the mod disagrees with them, then they are suddenly banned from both that community and 10 or 12 other communities. All run by the same moderator.

      !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com