For most people, yes I agree with you, however apple has done a very good job at creating products for stupid people. If I have someone ask me for advice on phones or computers I always ask them, do you want to have to think to use it? Do you care if you pay more so you can be lazy? If the answer is no to both of those, Apple is not bad. The end user never has to see a file system, everything is drag and drop. My grandmother was able to figure out the Apple UI in about an hour, and that included learning how a mouse and keyboard worked as she had never used a computer before in her life. It’s a little scary how dumb Apple allows you to be.
For that reason and that reason only I think Apple has a place. If you want to get actual work done / don’t want to pay double for the same thing, Apple’s not for you.
I feel like Apple is easier for people who aren’t tech-literate, but actually way harder than Windows/Android for those that are.
I’m one of those millennials who grew up with computers and feels pretty comfortable with technology. I had a near breakdown one night in college when I was in the computer lab trying to edit a video for a project that was due the next day (language class, not tech-related). The file wasn’t exporting correctly and the help staff had gone home for the day so I had to troubleshoot the issue on my own. I was using an Apple computer despite being way more familiar with Windows because it was the only computer with the video editing software I needed installed. I thought perhaps the problem was there wasn’t enough space on the hard drive for the file to export (this was back when all but the most souped-up hard drives had pathetic capacity). It was late at night so there were no help staff available, and I’m about to lose my shit because after twenty minutes of searching I cannot for the life of me figure out how to look up the remaining space available on the hard drive (or any useful info on the hard drive for that matter). Somehow even my typically sharp Google-fu was completely failing me. I don’t even know how many times I instinctually tried right-clicking on that stupid Apple mouse just to be like, oh right, Apple doesn’t even trust their users to have both a left AND right-click button. A few years later I got an iPhone because Android wasn’t a thing yet in the country where I was living (or my provider didn’t support it, I don’t quite remember). It felt like the same situation: what I had access to was easy, but trying to break past the dummy-proofing to do any advanced customization was basically impossible. Frustratingly the thing also started crapping out on me after less than three years, so I replaced it with an android and never looked back.
In fairness to Apple that is good design. Computers including phones should be intuitive and easy to use, but also accessible to more experienced users.
The keeping up with Jones stuff with apple though is really bad. Like kids going off the university getting premium Mac books when they could save money and get a generic windows lap top. Or the seemingly ubiquitous purchase of earpods - an expensive way to purchase earphones when there are so many cheaper alternatives, not least the dirt cheap 3.5mm wired earphones that phone manufacturers are trying to obliterate.
dude i have a 10 years old macbook with bootcamp on it and the thing is working better than wife’s new lenovo thing. the screen is a million times better, and cpu/ram are adequate for zoom calls and excel. finding something with a comparable screen on the PC side is really difficult. when this dies i’ll look for another used macbook like this
Apple products.
For most people, yes I agree with you, however apple has done a very good job at creating products for stupid people. If I have someone ask me for advice on phones or computers I always ask them, do you want to have to think to use it? Do you care if you pay more so you can be lazy? If the answer is no to both of those, Apple is not bad. The end user never has to see a file system, everything is drag and drop. My grandmother was able to figure out the Apple UI in about an hour, and that included learning how a mouse and keyboard worked as she had never used a computer before in her life. It’s a little scary how dumb Apple allows you to be.
For that reason and that reason only I think Apple has a place. If you want to get actual work done / don’t want to pay double for the same thing, Apple’s not for you.
I feel like Apple is easier for people who aren’t tech-literate, but actually way harder than Windows/Android for those that are.
I’m one of those millennials who grew up with computers and feels pretty comfortable with technology. I had a near breakdown one night in college when I was in the computer lab trying to edit a video for a project that was due the next day (language class, not tech-related). The file wasn’t exporting correctly and the help staff had gone home for the day so I had to troubleshoot the issue on my own. I was using an Apple computer despite being way more familiar with Windows because it was the only computer with the video editing software I needed installed. I thought perhaps the problem was there wasn’t enough space on the hard drive for the file to export (this was back when all but the most souped-up hard drives had pathetic capacity). It was late at night so there were no help staff available, and I’m about to lose my shit because after twenty minutes of searching I cannot for the life of me figure out how to look up the remaining space available on the hard drive (or any useful info on the hard drive for that matter). Somehow even my typically sharp Google-fu was completely failing me. I don’t even know how many times I instinctually tried right-clicking on that stupid Apple mouse just to be like, oh right, Apple doesn’t even trust their users to have both a left AND right-click button. A few years later I got an iPhone because Android wasn’t a thing yet in the country where I was living (or my provider didn’t support it, I don’t quite remember). It felt like the same situation: what I had access to was easy, but trying to break past the dummy-proofing to do any advanced customization was basically impossible. Frustratingly the thing also started crapping out on me after less than three years, so I replaced it with an android and never looked back.
Epilogue: I’m now a Linux user
In fairness to Apple that is good design. Computers including phones should be intuitive and easy to use, but also accessible to more experienced users.
The keeping up with Jones stuff with apple though is really bad. Like kids going off the university getting premium Mac books when they could save money and get a generic windows lap top. Or the seemingly ubiquitous purchase of earpods - an expensive way to purchase earphones when there are so many cheaper alternatives, not least the dirt cheap 3.5mm wired earphones that phone manufacturers are trying to obliterate.
Yea that part I fully agree with you.
Another one of you that don’t understand the question and take offense to others preferences. Silliness.
dude i have a 10 years old macbook with bootcamp on it and the thing is working better than wife’s new lenovo thing. the screen is a million times better, and cpu/ram are adequate for zoom calls and excel. finding something with a comparable screen on the PC side is really difficult. when this dies i’ll look for another used macbook like this