Honestly, I think the same criticisms from the previous generation apply here as well. If only it were $100 cheaper, it would have probably been the perfect SE successor. Still, at least they added MagSafe.
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$200 too much. The single-camera phone should have been $399. Keep the storage at 128GB if that’s part of what’s necessary to keep the price down. I’m also fine with the RAM being 4GB if that’s feasible for iOS these days. I know it’s not for Apple Intelligence, but the point is to make a cheap phone.
At $600, I don’t know who this phone is for. You can get the regular Pro or the base model from last year or the year before for the same price and you get way more value.
Limiting the phone to 4 gigs of ram might be tolerable now. But it won’t be for long. I’d much rather 8 gigs of ram and more than doubling its usable life over a second camera.
And 4 gigs is not great on iOS now. My 10th Gen. iPad is constantly unloading apps that I’m still using. 6 gigs is really the minimum. But with a CPU as fast as the a19 it would be a waste of sand give it anything less than 8.
Most people just like buying something that’s the latest generation, new from the manufacturer. People don’t think practically, they think conveniently.
You still get the best support on the whole market (my iPad Air 2 from 2014 still gets updates), and you get software that’s familiar. That is the allure of the Apple Ecosystem.
Also, the SE 3 was $420. They weren’t gonna make it cheaper.
I’m personally not interested, because I really value 120hz, but I can see who this phone is for. Now that the iPhone 17 has that ProMotion, the 17e has become the replacement for the most generic phone.
PS: Before anybody comes at me, I use Android. I’ve moved away from Apple, but I still follow what’s going on out of interest.
the 17e has become the replacement for the most generic phone.
That’s exactly what it’s for. It’s the cheap iPhone for people who want an iPhone, but don’t really care. The 16e won’t be around forever, and Apple doesn’t do price cuts. So it’s either offer a phone that once was a good value, but now sucks. Or just keep pumping out a newer value phone every year.
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Compared to the rest of the lineup it’s cheap.
That’s easy when the rest of the lineup is outrageously overpriced.
Not sure why anyone would come at you. I use both as well, though I mostly use my iPhone because I have Apple stuff. I also have an Android phone (Galaxy S10) from 2019. Funny thing, it’s very nearly as fast as my iPhone 16 Pro Max despite them being released 5 years apart. These days it doesn’t much matter what you have, what brand you use, it’s probably good enough for what you need it for. The 17e is fine, but you can do a lot better for your money.
I guess I’m still used to Reddit’s way, even now.
I should probably just leave the phone wars behind.
I think we all should. It’s good for phone makers because churn means you’ll buy a new phone sooner than you need to. It’s good for influencers since it gets them views. It’s consumer hostile, though. If you aren’t financially benefiting, why even push it? I generally prefer Apple, but I’ll happily dump on them when they deserve it. I also feel like the company that makes the computers I like using (Macs) is not the same as the company making iPhones, but it actually is. I do like my iPhone, but I don’t like it like I like my Macs. It’s just, they work well together. Apparently an Android phone can’t be mounted as a drive on a Mac like it can on a Windows computer? At least it didn’t work for me. But on iPhone, you have AirDrop. Still, for most usage, the Mac doesn’t care what phone you have. Mac itself is older than smartphones. It’ll talk to an iPhone because Apple tech meshes well, but it’s not like it won’t do Mac things for you if you use Android. Same with Windows, Windows likes Android, but it’s fine to use an iPhone with one. And my Samsung from 2019 actually does a few things better than my iPhone from 2024 — notably the keyboard accuracy, and home screen customisation.
I can fault both platforms all day, but what I can’t do in good conscience is trash one while exalting the other. I’ve done it for years, it’s habit, it’s tribalism, I get it, but it’s trash and we should all move away from it, unless doing so is putting food on our table.
You can’t really connect android phones to macs, but it can be done through OpenMTP, which uses the same protocol as on Windows.
