One of Reddit’s biggest communities is suggesting users move to Discord r/malefashionadvice, the biggest Reddit community still inaccessible in protest of Reddit’s new API pricing, is encouraging its users to congregate on Discord and view guides on Substack.
Hot take but this is worse than them just staying on Reddit.
Is this really a hot take? Discord is awful for anything but active discussions in the moment. Trying to retrieve any information from the past on a Discord server is infinitely worse than even Reddit’s (commonly mocked) search function.
Discord is just a very different platform compared to Reddit. Personally I feel like Discord is amazing to stay connected with friends and other small communities. But it’s simply not made for large communities the way Reddit is. Or was.
I would disagree on the grounds that this will functionally just break up the community, which is the best outcome. People will get bored and move on to the next thing, and both reddit and discord will lose.
I personally just don’t get Discord and find it very annoying when it’s the only means to communicate about something. And it certainly doesn’t feel like a good replacement for Reddit due to the many reasons mentioned in this thread.
Discord is not an appropriate replacement for Reddit.People are only saying it is because it’s popular.
I’m glad they’re leaving the old site, but Discord serves different purposes and isn’t a replacement. I’d recommend they start a Lemmy community.
Yeah, I actually hate that forums are being abandoned in favor of Discord. Especially since a lot of the moves are for tech support. Discord serves an entirely different function than a forum. A forum is for someone 10 years ago to ask a question, get it answered, and then have that question pop up as a search result for the next decade whenever others have the same question. You didn’t need to create an account and start your own thread to get your question answered. You just googled it and found it.
Discord acting as a replacement simply means that people constantly ask the same “how do I [x]” questions all day every day. It’s exhausting because every single question needs to be answered with it’s own reply, instead of simply having the answer ready to go as soon as the user googles it.
I get it. You’re a startup tech company. You don’t want to pay for server space for a forum. And Discord is free, so you might as well just start a server there. But that means your admins/mods are going to spend all day responding to every single “how do I update”, when it could simply be a google search instead.
The new generation of Internet users simply does not search. Watch this exasperating behaviour grow exponentially with all the AI bots, GPT whatnots and LLM shenanigans.
Zoomers overall can’t use computers, they grew up with phones and apps. Everything has to be handed to them in a closed off environment.
This is very broad and does not apply to all people. You should be more considerate before generalising an entire generation of people
Perhaps that’s why they said
Zoomers overall
Also not sure what’s so inconsiderate about their comment. I feel like it’s pretty widely accepted that zoomers generally don’t have the same tech problem-solving skills that many gen x/y people do. No one’s claiming they’re dumb. It’s a byproduct of growing up with tech that has been designed for simplicity and ease of use.
Apologies. I may have misinterpreted the meaning behind the comment
All good!
Revanced did this and it’s infuriating. I just hop in once in a while and ask the same dumb question because I can’t be arsed to scroll up 200 posts to find the answer; just to underscore this point.
I agree that Discord is a bad replacement for web forums, but you can search in any server that you belong to.
that you belong to
This is the issue. You need to log in, and join the server in order to access this information. Idk if it is still true, but there was a limit to the number of people who could join these communities. Which further complicates access to this information.
Yeah, somehow people got the idea I was saying this was good or comparable to the Web. It definitely isn’t. Saying that there is no search is wrong, though.
Fair. However, at least to me, the way you worded it seemed to be missing the point of the person you replied to. Yes, you can search a discord server, but they aren’t able to be indexed by search engines in the way that forums can which is what I believe was the point he was trying to get across.
So in your opinion, if I search discord for
virsh # start win10-ts1-1507 error: Failed to start domain win10-ts1-1507 error: Cannot access storage file ‘/media/wenzel/OSWatcher/vms/win10-ts1-1507.qcow2’ (as uid:64055, gid:108): Permission denied
How likely would I be to get someone with the same problem and a solution?
It would depend on which server you’re searching in.
Wouldn’t it just be nuts if I could search multiple different discord servers at the same time? And it would show me a bunch of different results on the same screen? If only something would get invented.
It would also be nice if you didn’t have to join a server to search within it – you could have a page that searches all servers and shows you results. Maybe one day…
Thought the same when I was reading this, weird they wouldn’t migrate here, unless they are unaware of the Fediverse
I must admit I’m quite surprised more subs that are closing shop these days aren’t at least attempting to move to Lemmy. It’s as if most of the mods are completely unaware of - or, for some unknown reason, are avoiding - the fediverse.
Discord prevented 3rd party clients before it was cool.
If the objective is to avoid being forced to accept changes to software you use… why choose another person with the same power over you rather than free software?
Because nobody really cares about free as in freedom. Speaking in hyperbole, of course, but you step outside of our tech savvy bubble for just a moment and it feels that way very quickly. As far as they’re concerned, Facebook is free. Threads is free. Switching from twitter to threads is just switching from one shitty free thing to another free thing that they think will be less shitty. Of course it’s less shitty now, they want users. Mastodon? Pleroma? Seems kinda confusing, what’s a server? Is FB a big server? Yeah… Free software alternatives have some PR problems to overcome at the moment. Now if there could be a new thing, a killer app, that was free? That would be insane.
Same story with Twitter users going to Meta’s Threads instead of Mastodon. Most people don’t see privacy online as an important matter because it’s non-tangible for them. They go with the “safe/popular” option only for the story to repeat itself later…
At least their client isn’t hot trash like reddit though 😂
Isn’t it? It somewhat-works in the browser but you don’t get proper noise cancellation there nor quite some other features. Their native client is using an ancient version of Electron that, at least on Linux, leaves a lot to be desired. No audio-share, no proper Wayland support, no High-dpi.
There are quite a few amateur GitHub projects with patches and repacks to show how things should be done.
If a client is only good on Windows, then it is not that good. Remember Skype?
I game on Linux and discord worked fine for me. Anyways this isn’t really an apples to apples comparison. The reddit client crashes a lot and injects ads in the feed and lacks all the nice stuff of 3rd party clients.
I was on discord for 3 days. It was awful. A dumpster fire is, by my definition, still hot trash.
If you’re gonna say it’s bad you could at least explain the reasoning
That’s fair. I used the mobile app, so this may differ for any other user access points. It kept trying to read data that I have already denied, like location and access to sms as two examples. It also kept crashing at odd places. I’m sure there was a pattern, but I didn’t stay long enough to extrapolate it. Now, I know that the network is useful. However, at least at the time, the app was garbage and I had had enough of the leaks (as per my firewall) it was causing on top of the already privacy invasive defaults. I don’t shame anyone for using it, nor do I think it’s “the devil” or whatever. However, I do think the UI for the mobile user at the time was absolutely unacceptable as the official app, and the fact that the mobile web page almost forced you onto the broken app was also unacceptable. As I only ever used it for one community, I didn’t spend much time to find an alternative (if one even exists), and maybe that part’s on me.
I don’t understand why some are migrating to discord, it is not a reddit alternative in any way shape or form
From one platform they don’t control to another platform they don’t control. See you in a while when Discord pulls some bullshit and everyone will be looking for an alternative to the alternative.
How tf does that make sense?
It doesn’t!
Discord is great for real time chat, but really bad for threaded conversation which was what Reddit was good at. Didn’t anybody mention the Fediverse and Lemmy/kbin to them?
Indexing it is hard to impossible, too. Collective knowledge does not truly get retained
Yeah def not a good replacement for micro blogging. It’s almost impossible to catch up Discord even with slow mode on.
I find Lemmy cool. Hope more people leave Reddit for it and we can rebuild a decentralized place no one company can control.
It’s going to be really difficult to get most people used to the idea of decentralized federated services.
Thats not the problem. The problem is the usability. Making an account? Finding different communities? Find the right app? Everything really difficult. Thats the problem.
I’m fairly techy myself, not the most techy but I can admin a Salesforce instance, write a wordpress plugin from scratch, I can get by in React…
I’ve found migrating from reddit to lemmy frustrating. I still don’t know if I’m doing it “right”. Ive not subscribed to anything, nor tried to track down my old communities on here because it all just seems tedious and needlessly complicated.
Threads is winning over Mastodon because you click a button and it’s Twitter but a different color.
Plus, I’ve seen communities try this during the blackout. I didn’t see the outcome for other communities, but on/r/Dota2 at least, people despised the suggestion because the discord already had an establish culture and that culture was basically shit.
So you were told to go take your activity and do it in a place of a different format, with different levels of topic focus, on a more personal level, in a place where you’re basically an outsider butting in and the people there don’t even really share an interest in discussing what you want (which was at the time a big tournament).
That’s an astronomically terrible idea. And the worst part, not just did we have THIS website, we also had other forums (even the steam forum). I dunno what reddit mods have to be smoking to willfully ignore those in favor of a chatroom.
I‘ll bet you a $100 (not really) they are mods on discord as well and their urge to keep control over the community is the real driver for them.
Discord is VERY different from link/thread aggregators/forums such as Reddit and Lemmy. I just don’t understand subreddits that move to Discord.
/r/buildapcsales/ has an official Discord server now, and it just sucks compared to Reddit’s format.
Also, Discord doesn’t show up in search results for if people are trying to find an answer for something. And the search in the Discord servers sucks for this kind of thing as well.
Elaborating on /r/buildapcsales specifically with earlier comment:
Using the search in the subreddit lets you see what the price is usually on sale at, and around what time of year. Sometimes the current sale isn’t worth buying. People would comment in the threads mentioning that.
You can also read everyone’s comments on that specific product in either the current thread or the old ones to see if it’s worth buying or not for yourself.
Do note that a lot of these have 30-100 comments that are helpful for users to read.
I’ll just drop this here: !buildapcsales@lemmy.ml
While it’s not ideal for most subreddits, I do get why they do this in general. A lot of subreddits prior to the API protests already had a Discord server where the community would congregate. I was already in r/deadmau5’s Discord server during the COVID pandemic, and it used to be the official Discord for electronic musician deadmau5 and his label to the point where he and his label signees would actually talk in there. That was changed after his management decided to try integrating crypto/NFT shit into it which the owner of the server disagreed with, but the point still stands.
Protesting a walled garden blocking third party apps, by moving to a walled garden that never allowed third party apps, is one of the stupidest things I’ve seen on reddit.
I’d also like to mention meta too with how some instances have been open to hearing them out. It’s like people went and deleted their reddit content because they didn’t want to add value to the reddit platform for people to find through search engines and interact with, but then they are fine with provoding content that can be engaged with for Zuckerberg over Spez? Call me crazy but Reddit is still way better and preferable to providing content for their userbase to interact with than Meta.
Second post of this I’ve seen in a couple days so I was curious and joined it. It’s very active and I’m going in thinking that it is a good move. Active conversations suits fashion advice IMO.
Here’s a link in case you’re curious: https://discord.gg/Z7mACcrfJV
Edit: I like it.
Because everyone knows that live chat rooms are exactly like message forums with content that can be voted up and down.
haha - male fashion advise is one of reddit’s biggest communities?
