• ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    That would make it harder for creative people to produce things and make money from it. Abolishing copyright isn’t the answer. We still need a system like that.

    A shorter period of copyright, would encourage more new content. As creative industries could no longer rely on old outdated work.

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      10 months ago

      That would make it harder for creative people to produce things and make money from it

      no, it would make it easier.

      it would be harder to stop people from making money on creative works.

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        10 months ago

        You write a book, people start buying that book. Someone copies that book and sells it for 10 pence on Amazon. You get nothing from each sale.

        You write a song and people want to listen to it. Spotify serves them that song, you get nothing because you have no right to own your copy.

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          10 months ago

          That’s how free/libre and open-source software has worked since forever. And it works just fine. There is no need for an exclusive right to commercialise a product in order for it to be produced. You are basically parroting a decades old lie from Hollywood.

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            10 months ago

            Yeah, you don’t need exclusive rights for it to be produced. But artists, especially smaller artists, need that right to do silly things like paying for food and rent.

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          10 months ago

          you can still sell your book

          you can still sell your song.

          but your song can be a remix. your book can be a retelling of a popular story.

          you can still make money. you just can’t stop other people from making money. that is all copyright does, and it is wrong. it destroys culture.

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              10 months ago

              That means we’d have no more professionally produced movies, series, books, songs, games, etc., but would be stuck with what’s essentially fan art.

              we had professionally produced songs and books and games and plays before copyright. you are making that up.

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                10 months ago

                They are idealizing a pay-the-creator system. They are arguing for a system that is kinda coming together with patreon-like stuff.

                You seem to be arguing that people will just buy the cheapest identical copy. Which is hard to argue against, but there are people out there that pay creators that give their work for free. Copyright law certainly protects creators. But it’s cool to see some creators monetizing on open-licensed work.

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                    10 months ago

                    Yeah, kinda. I forgot which side of the argument the reply I replied to was on. I guess you can just flip the "you"s and "they"s. Or am I still off-base?

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            10 months ago

            Yeah, just make your own Spotify, how difficult is that?

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              10 months ago

              Relatively simple actually, without copyright. Download Spotify, rename app to Spudify, re-upload to app store. Done, easy peasy. Hardest part about it would be decompiling the existing app, which is definitely possible and may not even be necessary.

              The real truth is, however, that in this hypothetical world there would be no Spotify to copy and there would be much, much less music available to stream on Spudify.

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                10 months ago

                Yeah cuz musicians and artists only ever do it for the money…no other reason ever, nope.

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                  10 months ago

                  If they can’t afford to do it, then you’re relegating creativity to only those wealthy enough to be able to afford to do it.

                  The vast majority of art throughout human history was paid for by somebody, or sold by the artist. Van Gogh dies a poor man because people didn’t want to buy his paintings when he was alive. The Sistine Chapel was commissioned by a Pope. Just because you think your have an intrinsic right to the work of somebody else doesn’t mean you do.