• Carvex@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    They take the man’s entire life away because he revealed us terrible things our non-elected leaders are doing to us. Who was hurt by his actions?

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      9 months ago

      They take the man’s entire life away because he revealed us terrible things our non-elected leaders are doing to us.

      And for possessing child porn…

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        9 months ago

        Furman said Schulte continued his crimes from behind bars by trying to leak more classified materials and by creating a hidden file on his computer that contained 2,400 images of child sexual abuse that he continued to view from jail.

        Holy crap, dude was even watching child porn in prison. Clearly the CIA is hiring the cream of the crop.

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            9 months ago

            Except the part where he was quoted saying that it was a victimless crime. Ick

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              9 months ago

              Yeah, it’s fairly insane. You’d think he would have denied it, got everyone in an uproar, maybe made a bid for appeal.

              NOPE

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        Disclosing found exploits allows developers to patch them out and improve security of everyone, which includes all the other alphabet boys and regular citizens.
        There’s no way to know that you’re the only one who found any given exploit. Letting an exploit stay unpatched opens up an attack vector for everyone, not just you.

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          9 months ago

          Disclosing found exploits to the development team is far different than exposing those exploits to unfriendly countries or in this case those that would expose state secrets.

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        9 months ago

        Tune extent yes, but it also makes us all more secure. Even if you think our own government is doing a good job all the other governments have these holes too.

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      9 months ago

      must be nice not having to understand things

      “We will likely never know the full extent of the damage, but I have no doubt it was massive,” Judge Jesse M. Furman said as he announced the sentence.

      Schulte was responsible for “the most damaging disclosures of classified information in American history.”

      he got people killed, and you don’t care

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        9 months ago

        Please add citations where people were killed as a direct result

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          Realistically, it’s doubtful anybody died directly because of that particular leak.

          Probably the shutting down of the phone reading methods could eventually compromise operations. It probably cost them money and a great deal of time which could totally have an impact on somebody’s life. But that’s how espionage works.

          I kind of get that you have to keep your secrets secret. And there need to be repercussions for leaking secrets. Especially trade secrets like this. If not for the CP stuff I would think 5 or 10 years would have been a more reasonable number.

          But with the hole unapologetic CP thing. I’m not even sure 40 is enough.

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        When people claim that leaks “get people killed,” they’re referring to when undercover agents are identified while they’re in the field. The only secrets exposed in these leaks are the computer hacking techniques used by the US to spy remotely through compromised devices.

        The so-called Vault 7 leak revealed how the CIA hacked Apple and Android smartphones in overseas spying operations, and efforts to turn internet-connected televisions into listening devices.

        You could maybe say that closing off those surveillance channels prevented the CIA from learning about some attack, but that’s really tenuous. It also assumes that the CIA isn’t constantly developing new zero-day exploits so that they can continue to spy on just about everyone on the planet.

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          The class of information that Snowden had was substantially more dangerous. He didn’t just walk out of there with Prism secrets.

          There’s a reasonable chance that some of the data Snowden had would have had more dire impacts on remote agents.

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            Why should he go to trial? It’s not going to be a fair trial, and the people have a right to know that the US government is illegally surveilling them. If he truly did directly kill people as a result of his leak, there would already be preliminary evidence.

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              Right up with you until preliminary evidence.

              If they publicly released that his leak got someone in particular killed, they would be admitting publicly that the person killed was an agent. In most cases they would not want to tip their hand on that for fear of exposing other agents.