• MotoAsh@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    Not only should it happen in nature, but nature causes this behavior. They evolved that way because they survive better than a species that gets tangled up in itself. That’s it. That’s the whole reason, start to finish. There are a multitude of reasons why not getting tangled up in your neighbors is good, but the tree simply has to survive better, and that is all that is required for the behavior to become the new natural norm.

    • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      Correct

      Natural selection happens at the genotype level, not the individual level. Having a species that likes to combat with other individuals with, essentially, the exact same genotype, at the expense of both individuals, is often not a winning strategy.

      (There are exceptions and caveats of course – e.g. competition between individuals to select the fittest ones of them to preferentially survive, or Fisher’s Principle which explains why the ratio of males to females is roughly 50:50 in most species, even though that’s often not optimal for the species as a whole).

    • Fuck spez@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      And isn’t it advantageous to the whole forest if the mature trees are the same height? Doesn’t that happen naturally all over the place? Something about equal sunlight, hydraulic pressure, hydration, and… I forget.

    • PilferJynx@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      8 months ago

      Man, that’s some crazy logic. I’ll take occams razor and state that wind movement abrades the leaves/limbs on one another.

        • PilferJynx@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          I’m just saying you’re adding too much complexity in this particular phenomenon. Evolution by natural selection is a very robust model that has remarkable predictive power. It only works if you’re not assuming too many inputs.