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    8 months ago

    overlay a map of racist beliefs and policies in the US

    There are places in the US unaffected by “racist beliefs and policies?” Seems to me that white supremacist ideology is pretty uniform across the US - the only difference is that certain types and classes of white people pretend not to be. Is this what you are referring to?

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        Imagine the privilege required to believe that white supremacism is only limited to those who expresses it overtly.

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          As a POC, I would rather live in a place where racists are a little more afraid to be open about it, than a place where the KKK and Nazis are visible and tolerated. It turns out that many of the places where racists are most tolerated are places in the Bible Belt.

          Yea, white supremacism is everywhere, but there are definitely levels to it.

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            but there are definitely levels to it.

            I never said there wasn’t - but there are a lot of (mostly white) liberals here that will seemingly only acknowledge the existence of white supremacism if it’s wearing a white hood or a swastika while ignoring the fundamental white supremacism US society is based on that enables the overt white supremacism in the first place.

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              Seems to me that white supremacist ideology is pretty uniform across the US

              Literally your words, what the fuck

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                Literally your words, what the fuck

                It’s really simple - either you accept white supremacism is fundamental to the US’s existence, or you don’t. Ie, it’s uniform. The manner in which it serves the US political and economic establishment can differ and vary wildly - but that does not change the fact that the US is *fundamentally a white supremacist and colonialist project in it’s entirety. It is still uniform.

                If you don’t believe me, go ask a Palestinian whether it’s easier to be a Palestinian in Gaza or the West Bank right now.

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                  Ohhhh you’re not an idiot, you just misunderstand what “uniform” means. “Uniform” means “the same”, with a specific connotation of equality and homegenity. I think you’re looking for the word “intrinsic” - meaning it’s an integral part of something, a base layer. As you said, “fundamental to something’s existence”.

                  If racism were uniform across the US, it would be equally as bad everywhere, people would be getting beaten and lynched for being Black in Seattle as much as in Birmingham. Which is obviously not the case. But to say racism is intrinsic to the US, I can kind of see that. Racism, as a thing, is built into every layer of the country, though it’s expressed more or less severely in certain areas.

                  I would rather say racism is endemic in the US, which implies that it could be eradicated, though it would be very difficult to do so.

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          Since you’re able to work a computer, I assume you’re competent enough to understand that two things can be bad, but one can be MORE bad. The South is currently more bad.

          Even if the North is “hiding it”, as you say from under the tinfoil hat, the fact that it’s hidden means the oppression is less bad.

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            the fact that it’s hidden means the oppression is less bad.

            You do undesrtand that the visible part of the iceberg up top only exists because of the hidden and far larger part underneath it, right?