‘You’re Telling Me in 2023, You Still Have a ’Droid?’ Why Teens Hate Android Phones / A recent survey of teens found that 87% have iPhones, and don’t plan to switch::undefined

  • SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    I don’t get this. Are you saying that iPhones are more disposable? iFixit says iPhones are more repairable than almost all android phones.

    The software situation is no contest. My iPhone 6s, released in 2015, is still getting security updates in 2023. It got its last OS update in 2021. Meanwhile, most premium flagship Android phones don’t get security updates for more than 3 years, much less OS updates, and even that’s a recent change.

    Not to say iPhones couldn’t be better, but I left Android specifically because of longevity. I wish all phones were as repairable as Fairphone.

    • over_clox@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Bruh, it takes a specially made and programmed laser to disassemble their epoxied phones these days. Where you been?

      • SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca
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        1 year ago

        Check out the iFixit link in my previous comment. iPhones might suck for repairability, but they’re better than almost every Android phone. Where’s your evidence?

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          I don’t need evidence, I spent over 7 years repairing them. I can reassemble certain Apple devices in my sleep, but you won’t catch me dead with one.

          Like WTF? They start off in the device setup like ‘Please enter your CC number’…?

          • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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            Adding a CC to your wallet is optional, Android offers similar card storage too so I don’t really see your point. It stays on device fully encrypted anyway.

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              No, that’s not optional on iPhone, you can’t even use their app store even for ‘free’ apps unless you enable their app store with a CC number.

              Unless something seriously changed since 2017 when I gave up on Apple…

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                Didn’t even consider the App Store, I was busy thinking about the wallet. You’re right.

              • orion2145@lemmy.world
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                Actually not true. I just set up a device for a friend the other day and absolutely skipped adding any payment info and was able to download apps. Why are you spreading so much misinformation?

                • over_clox@lemmy.world
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                  I did say ‘unless something has changed in recent years’

                  Back when I was rebuilding and repairing iPhone 5/6 series and iPad 2/3 series this was most certainly true. Couldn’t use the app store for anything, not even free apps, without first entering in a CC number.

                  Made absolutely no sense to me why it was that way, but it was.

            • SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca
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              So your anecdote is more reliable than the analysis of the biggest repair site on the internet? (Ugh, I hate internet debates sometimes.)

              I have never had a problem getting my iPhone fixed. But with 3 years max software support on Android, that’s not only planned obsolescence, it’s guaranteed obsolescence. Disposability is what your original comment was about.

      • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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        Did you not look at the link they provided? iFixit is a pretty well respected site and the iPhone 14 and 14pro are both rated more repairable than the most popular Android phones. Looks like Fairphone and a few other niche Android brands are the only ones that have Apple beat.

        • over_clox@lemmy.world
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          Depends on the device you get. Guess what?

          Out of my 4 fairly new Android devices, not a damn one of them are epoxied together.

          • fresh@sh.itjust.works
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            Why does epoxy matter for it being “disposable”? No one has a problem getting their iPhone fixed.

            • over_clox@lemmy.world
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              You are either a troll or an idiot. Maybe both. I hope I’m wrong though.

              You must not know anything about the R2R movement, the Right To Repair. Apple certified techs aren’t allowed access to schematics or parts, their entire goal is to sell you a new device.

              • fresh@sh.itjust.works
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                No need to be rude.

                Again, youre wrong. Both Apple and Samsung release repair manuals and provide replacement parts. Literally no one has a problem getting either phone repaired.

                I’m all for right to repair, but android phones suck for planned obsolescence so acting like they’re better about this is delusional. Don’t give them a pass.

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                  Apple doesn’t provide parts, they’re providing assemblies. Those are easier to install, but way more expensive.

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                    That’s a good point. If iPhones are more expensive to repair, then many people will dispose of them rather than repair. But I looked this up, completely expecting you to be right, and it looks like android phones like Samsung are often even more expensive to repair. So I’m still not seeing the justification for the original claim that iPhones are more disposable.

                • iopq@lemmy.world
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                  They only claim to do this, in reality people who own repair shops don’t think they are doing it in good faith

                  • fresh@sh.itjust.works
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                    Are Samsung and Sony providing repair kits in “good faith”? I think they’re all horrible, but no one has a problem getting their phones fixed.