Microsoft really needs an antitrust smackdown with their repeated behavior.
So does Google though if we’re being honest.
Microsoft saying “stop using Google” is actually totally fine with me.
But only if they’re saying “go get Firefox.”
Shouldn’t Apple be the focus of efforts?
Why not both?
I think in reality the Chrome web browser is a huge threat to Internet freedom and should be a top priority.
Well one is trying to crack down on people using adblockers and the other is lobbying governments they don’t pay taxes to so that they are allowed to continue using forced ethnic slavery to make their products.
You think Google is going out of their way to ensure their devices are made in ethical factories?
Yes they do!
That didn’t work in the 90s.
Or in:
- 2000
- 2002
- 2003
- 2005
- 2008
- 2011
- (2022)
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_litigation
Kuduos to you doing your HW. :)
In retrospect, DoJ didn’t go far enough back then and ignored Microsoft’s anti-competitive behavior with BeOS.
Part of it was Reagan massively weakened antitrust law after Ma Bell was broken up.
This is why we can’t have good things.
Ma Bell, the ill communication
Which sucked because BeOS was really good for its time.
I was so excited to try BeOS back then. I don’t think I ever got my hands on a copy, but it just looked so good.
I got to play with a BeBox for a few hours at a friend’s store and it was pure joy to play with compared to what Apple and Microsoft had to offer.
For anyone curious about BeOS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzosnPSETzk
Also there’s apparently an open source version of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-zgv0CZfco
Looking at the lobbying with the MS-Activision mess, and how broken the government here is. I’m sure they would of gave in.
It might work if the fine was a couple hundred billion, we can give them a payment plan.
Know how to tell which Lemmy users are running Linux? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.
Sometimes I doubt my OS choice … but then suddenly microsoft reminds me why I chose it ;)
Just a reminder that if you’re using Windows, it’s not your property but Microsoft’s one
Right but licenses for pro are £200 RRP.
Don’t then beg me to use your services, just fuck off and let me use Windows how I want
No different than Chrome.
They’re talking windows in general
This goes for both chrome and bing: If a service is free, you are the product.
If a service is free, you are the product.
Linux?
You are the tester lol
True for Windows as well. Ever upgraded to a new version before the first SP? Linux just gets upgrades a lot faster than Windows (and I mean the conservative distros like Debian. Bleeding-edge distros are on a completely other level).
Don’t even need to upgrade, you get to test monthly if you’re not brave enough to hang a month behind.
Perhaps a better statement would be, if a for profit service is free, you are the product. Obviously it’s possible for someone to make free stuff if they want to, but if someone is making money from you using something, but you aren’t paying them, then they’re making that money by selling someone else access to you.
Linux is just an advertisement to contribute to open source
Nothing Microsoft does is good. Nothing google does is good.
Choose an alternative that values you.
I don’t even value me, no corporation gives a crap. They want you and your recurrent income.
meirl
So don’t go with a mainstream option.
This “solution” completely ignores the volumes of software that is still only compatible with Windows. This is exactly the belief that Microsoft wants you to have: the illusion that you have a choice between Windows and other, equal alternatives. And before someone starts spouting off about WINE: it truly is a wonderful piece of software, and I don’t mean to disparage any of its talented contributors, but it will likely never even approach feature parity with Windows. I mean, it still can’t run the industry standard 3D modeling program.
I’m aware of the pitfalls.
I want you and your recurrent income.
Linux and Firefox with uBlock Origin.
I’ll settle for one that has a vague indifference to me.
Slackware
The problem is that Linux’s user experience is simply not good enough for normal users.
It’s absolutely correct to blame Microsoft and Google. But Linux also needs to do more to appeal to non-tech people.
That’s probably not going to happen
I’m holding onto hope actually. I recently started dual-bootung into Mint and the installation process was a breeze. The only thing I could imagine a “typical” user finding difficult is setting up the flash drive for booting/installation. The UI is nice and familiar too. As a Linux newbie I hear that Mint is basically Ubuntu, and that (modern) Ubuntu is hot garbage, but even if it caused my computer to take an actual shit on the floor, it still beats Windows by a country mile.
I think (perhaps too optimistically) that with some more awareness we could see a fairly sizeable migration.
Why do you think it’s hot garbage?
I didn’t mean to make it seem like I had any opinion either way, just that it has received some hate over the years. I did some research - admittedly it was cursory - and it looks like the issues are somewhat exaggerated.
Canonical, it seems, has made a number of poor decisions but apparently they pay attention to user complaints and revert / make adjustments accordingly. Some of the controversial things I saw were related to the Snap package manager, possible telemetry, bloatware, and some partnership with Amazon.
Some of those things were either nothingburgers or simply overblown (one person said the only thing they could see as bloatware was… a few board games), so I would take their anecdotes with a grain of salt.
Again, I’m a relative idiot when it comes to Linux, but my takeaway is that Ubuntu suffers from the typical growing pains / compromises that a relatively popular OS will inevitably encounter. Especially when most of the Linux userbase consists of power users who prefer having complete control (which is perfectly fair too!)
Use whatever distro fits your needs; as long as you ditch Microsoft, you’re making a good choice :)
Which is why we’re still stuck with Windows…
There’s always macOS.
Apple also doesn’t care about you. It’s also overpriced.
With the way the average person uses a computer, the Linux user experience would probably melt their brains. No offense to the average computer user, but we have seen time and time again that they are not the brightest when it comes to tech literacy or just don’t care and refuse to care since it goes against the grain, so to speak.
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Meh gamepass is cool for now. It will probably go up in price and become shitty when they get enough market share but until then it is super cool. And honestly I think bing/edge is now the better choice as a search engine/browser compared to Google/chrome. But no way I will give up my Firefox.
Edge (and that joke Brave) is chromium and that supports google’s control of the web. Firefox, or Safari on a Mac, don’t use google’s tech.
Firefox is the best for me. I thought chromium was open source though and not necessarily owned by Google.
Google controls it and allows people to use it so their own browser technology has the market share and can shape the web.
Denying google, a for-profit and evil company to shape a valuable public resource is dangerous.
As usual, it’s only Big Tech that’s able to compete with Big Tech. They all love to their their weight around when they can, and join forces when it’s convenient.
Neither corporation should be defended or trusted with your data.
The only thing that’s kinda funny here is the irony of Microsoft tryna poach Chrome users into their own… wait for it… Chromium-based browser.
I swear windows keeps getting worse, I have switched to MacOS 6 years ago and switched to Linux 3 years ago. I seriously never miss windows
and switched to Linux 3 years ago. I seriously never miss windows
If only I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard that…
You’d have, like, five dollars?
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Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Windows 11 to get people to ditch Google for malicious google copycat Bing+Edge
Maybe it’s because I disable things and go through the settings with a fine tooth comb after a fresh install but I never see this stuff. Not discounting others’ experiences either. Can’t imagine being inundated with this stuff like some are claiming they are.
I mean, yes, you can do that, but then that brings us to the question: why does the user have to do that, spend a lot of time changing settings to make an OS bearable? Imho, any OS should ship with sensible defaults that have the user in mind.
If there’s little to no need to go through the settings, you probably will miss a lot of them and never know.
Also, I think after a fresh install going through some settings to check out what you have, what you don’t have and what you can have is not something only power users should do, but that’s a power user’s opinion 😅
Thing is, most normal users do not care about the settings. They use the computer like a TV, turn it on and expect it to work.
Nothing is stopping power users from looking through the settings to find good things to tweak, of course, but setting weird defaults to make a user look at their settings is indefinitely worse than, say, an optional tour of the OS that greets the user on their first login.
Same. With Windows 10, everyone was like there are ads and shit in the Start menu and browser nagging and all that jazz - never ever seen any of them. After fresh install, I do my settings, let it sit for a while to do the Windows Update, delete (uninstall) all the unneccessary tiles from Start and that’s it, literally.
I just got an ad in my PAID for MS Office subscription Outlook. If they start showing me ads, I’ll be cancelling and using the free shit.
It’s the only place I have seems ads so far…
I didn’t feel like it was that much when I used windows either. But then I started dual booting linux, and I realized just how much I had been ignoring. I had just gotten used to closing every notification without reading it. It’s kind of cursed knowledge thing. It only takes like <10s a day, but once I noticed it it really bothered me.
Coworkers have been complaining on Teams all day about how the Bing bar is suddenly showing up on their desktops. When did Microsoft stop giving a fuck about businesses? I wish to fucking god we could run Linux on our work machines.
I am so glad it wasn’t just me! Like the article said, I legit thought I had some sort of malware on my machine. Which I guess is true, they just call it windows. I really only use my machine for gaming and every time I’ve tried to switch to linux I had all sorts of compability issues.
Open question to all. Is SteamOS all that it’s cracked up to be? I’m still gonna have game by game issues right?
The only machine you wanna be using SteamOS on is the Steam Deck. Use a standard Linux distribution like Ubuntu if you’re gonna do it on any other machine. The reason being that the version of SteamOS for generic PCs is horribly outdated, and the one on the Deck is very much built exclusively for the Deck’s hardware.
Gaming mostly works out of the box with almost all games on Steam on Linux (SteamOS is not special in this regard) but there is an important caveat; be careful of games that use anticheat software - some work but others do not or may trigger bans. Check ProtonDB for your specific games to see if there are issues.
I’ve been dual booting for years. Almost everything works out of the box with proton nowadays, but you will need to tinker on occasion and some companies refuse to allow it for anti-cheat (that’s getting very rare, though). On the whole it’s very minimal, but you will have occasional frustrations.
That’s why they try to sell Windows 10 Enterprise instead of professional. You can block most of that in Enterprise.
Microsoft loves popups. It feels like it is at least a few times that MS office puts a pop up in front of some button that I’m going to click to tell me about a new feature that I won’t use. Admittedly, I don’t know how to tell users about new features in a better way, but annoying users can’t be right.
I remember an old anecdote from sometime around 2005, that Microsoft did a survey to see what features people wanted added to the Office suite, of the top 10 requested features, 8 were already in the products and the users didn’t know about them.
The whole suite was bloated with stuff most people didn’t need, or at least very rarely needed, but no one wanted to take time to take a class on Excel, or read patch notes, or whatever.
It’s because of shit like this that I’m glad I switched to Linux.
I wish I could. My gaming rig has an nvidia gpu and linux support really sucks because of the proprietary driver situation…
Steams new gamepad ui is a slideshow running at 5fps and I loose HDR so I have to remain on Windows for now. Every other desktop I own is UNIX tho.A few others have mentioned Pop_OS! for their Nvidia driver support which is what I’m running too. I think I’m on version 535.93 or something like that. Most of the Ubuntu downstream (Ubuntu, mint, pop_os, etc,.) already include The proprietary drivers in their repos. Pop_OS is known for Nvidia support being a bit quicker than the others.
I’d suggest looking into dual booting (thats what I do, there are a few things that work better on windows). It’s super easy to set up, and it’s an easy low risk way to see if it works for you.
My gaming rig has an Nvidia GPU as well, and it runs mostly without any problems (I’ve had to manually update drivers a couple of times) on POP!_OS
Can you try to run the big picture/ gamepad UI and see if it lag? This my only real issue blocking me from switching back
I don’t currently own a gamepad, so I can’t help you. I hope somebody else can help.
I use a gaming laptop with an Nvidia GPU and linux support does not ‘really suck.’
The only downside I have is one you wouldn’t experience because you’re not using a laptop.
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SteamVR exists on Linux. HDR is coming
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I’m never installing windows 11.
I’m switching to full time Linux after Windows 10 becomes 100% obsolete.
I’m praying that the steam deck helps Linux support for games enough to fully uninstall windows
Been using Ubuntu Jammy for about 6months now. Have had 0 issues with any games on Steam.
Takes some slight tweaking for other games, such as RA2 Yuri’s Revenge, but it works.
If you have the patience for the occassional Google search you can switch any time.
How far behind do you think Linux gaming is?
Check protondb, I’d be surprised if you couldn’t play 9 out of your 10 most played games.
Depends on what you play. Multiplayer FPS games are still very far behind, where 9/10 don’t work due to anti-cheat.
If you only play small indie games or single player games you’re fine, but if you want any kind of competitive multiplayer you’re hosed.
Apex legends, overwatch 2, baldurs gate 3 and starfield are all gold on protondb. The only recent release I’ve found that’s borked is cod: cold war and I’m sure that will be fixed eventually
Apex Legends has repeatedly falsely banned Linux players. I’m not risking my account.
Any CoD, Destiny 2, Valorant, iRacing and a bunch of others are flat out not compatible and some have explicitly said there’s no plan to support Linux at any point.
Fuckin A. Same.
You can switch to Linux before Windows 10 becomes unsupported. The sooner the better for you, your privacy and your digital freedom in general.
I’m already dual-booting.
So I already have one foot in the door. LoL
That’s great, I wish you the best of luck on your journey towards freedom.
There needs to be a legally mandated option to turn off all recommendations and tracking, and to require consent to enable it in the first place.
Or the courts should force MS to split off into an os company, an online services company, an office productivity software company, and a gaming company.
If we had an actual anti-monopoly/umbrella corporation law that would be badass.
Hell Amazon would tank instantly, since they just operate on pumping AWS profits into their loss leader (Amazon delivery) constantly.
So would Google to some extent. This actually sounds like a good plan. We should go back to the 90’s antitrust law. Before we made it toothless and basically unenforceable.
Fuck yeah! Lets do some trust bustin!
So pretty much just an extension of GDPR. Sounds good.
Joke’s on them, I switched. To Firefox
I’ve been using windows for nearly as long as it has existed and I used to always be happy with updates. Even windows vista, despite all its problem, still felt like an upgrade compared to xp.
Then windows 8 started changing things in a direction I was not happy with, but at the same time it also had improvements over win7. Windows 10 repeated that with plenty of bad things but still overshadowed by massive improvements in many areas.
At this point windows was at its peak in some areas, like stability (when was the last time you saw a BSOD without actual faulty hardware?) and usability. Multiple Desktops, WSL2, the new Terminal…so many great things added in win10 updates.
And then comes win11 and shits at everything. Removed a ton of core features that didn’t need removing, broke a lot of compatibility with older stuff (something that Microsoft used to care deeply about) and adds… Nothing. It’s been quite a while since win11 released and there’s still nothing I can point at and say it does better than win10.
If you’re going to do all sorts of stuff with my data you should at least try to make me happy with your product in exchange, not make me dread using it every time.
Thoughtful take! Ditto.
what does “Ditto” mean?
It’s a bastardisation of the Latin idem dito
“say the same”. I assume it means something like “this”?
Yes. “Likewise” and “I agree wholeheartedly” work as well
that’s cool
It means “I feel the same way you do and would have said it myself, so I acknowledge and applaud that you said it first”.
Ditto (Japanese: メタモン Metamon) is a Normal-type Pokémon introduced in Generation I.
In its natural state, Ditto is a light-purple or pink blob-like Pokémon with vestigial facial features. It is often referred to as amorphous, but has a relatively consistent appearance in official artwork, including two small nubs on its “head”, a few soft lumps at its base, and two pseudopod-like protrusions in place of arms. The face consists of beady eyes and a simple mouth; almost always pulled into a smile.
It is capable of transforming into an exact replica of any physical object or living creature, including its form and abilities. Each Ditto has its own strengths and weaknesses when it comes to transforming; being unable to remain transformed while laughing and getting details of its transformation wrong if based on memory being apparently universal.
brooo LMFAO
