• Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 months ago

    Not in the US or the EU. If you make music in the States, then RCA or Sony owns your content, not you, and when they decide they’ve paid you enough (which is much less than they’re getting) then they still own your stuff. Also, if you make an amazing film or TV series ( examples: Inception, Firefly ) and the moguls don’t like it, they’ll make sure it tanks or at least doesn’t get aftermarket support, which is why Inception doesn’t have any video games tie-ins, despite being a perfect setting for video games.

    Artists are empowered in their ability to produce art. If they have to worry about hunger and shelter, then they make less art, and art narrowly constrained to the whims of their masters. Artists are not empowered by the art they’ve already made, as that has to be sold to a patron or a marketing institution.

    No, we’d get more and better art by feeding and housing everyone (so no one has to earn a living ) and then making all works public domain in the first place.

    Intellectual property is a construct, and it’s corruption even before it was embedded in the Constitution of the United States has only assured that old art does not get archived.

    I think yes, an artist needs to eat, which is why most artists (by far) have to wait tables and drive taxicabs and during all that time on the clock, not make art. The artists not making art far outnumber the artists that get to make art. And a small, minority subset of those are the ones who profit from art or even make a living from their art, a circumstance that is perpetually precarious.

    But I also think the public needs a body of culture, and as the Game of Thrones era showed us, culture and profit run at odds. The more expensive art is, the more it’s confined to the wealthy, and the less it actually influences culture. Hence we should just feed, clothe and home artists along with everyone else, whether or not they produce good or bad art. And we’ll get culture out of it.

    You can argue that a world of guaranteed meals and homes is not the world we live in, but then I can argue that piracy (and other renegade action) absolutely is part of the world we live in and will continue to thrive so long as global IP racketeering continues. Thieves and beggars, never shall we die.

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      4 months ago

      Sorry, I’m not going to read all that, but it seems like you’re upset about the shitty deals made by record labels and other large corporations, not intellectual property rights.

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          4 months ago

          So if an artist creates a piece of intellectual property, do you not think they should have control over how it’s used? Including who can make profit off of it?

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            4 months ago

            That’s an extremely vague question, and presumes that any art is de facto intellectual property.

            It also presumes that anyone has access to the institution that defines and enforces intellectual property.

            Also, intellectual property isn’t a real thing, but you don’t want to read too many words, so you’ll have to figure that out for yourself.

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              4 months ago

              In most if the modern world, copyright laws give automatic ownership of unique works of art. Legally IP is a real thing.

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                4 months ago

                Is it your intention to appeal to law? Here in the states, extrajudicial detention and torture by state actors is legal. Does that make it right?

                Do you think the copyright term of life + 70 years is fair to the public? Do you know how we got here?

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                  4 months ago

                  I think there’s room for improvement on copyright laws, but that’s a far cry from the outrageous claim that intellectual property isn’t a real thing.

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                    Infringement of IP is a crime according to specific states, but if you make art, and I replicate it, it doesn’t affect you.

                    If you write a story and I read it without paying you, it doesn’t affect you.

                    The only reason IP is a thing is because short-term monopolies on media (or inventions or methods) were enshrined by specific states as law, and then spread through trade agreements, and they were expanded on without concern for their original purpose or for the good of the public. In fact, we’re seeing fair use rights fade since states aren’t willing to enforce them, and platforms like YouTube over censor.

                    So at this point, in the US, the EU and the eastern market, no IP law would be better than what we have.

                    So no, you have not demonstrated any reason I should have respect for your IP.

                    However, if you’re going to insist, and be an IP maximalist, there is one thing I can do for you /to you (or Sony, or Time Warner, or Disney) that is worse than pirating your product.

                    And that, of course, is not pirating your product.