• helenslunch@feddit.nl
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    3 months ago

    Brave is not completely independent of chrome

    That’s not what I said. I said it’s completely independent of Google.

    All they do is adapt chromium to have a few extra features.

    If you used it for 5 minutes you’d know that’s not true. Quit making shit up.

    None of this has anything to do with the topic at hand (ad blocking) which Brave has built into the browser and functions the same as uBo. If it didn’t work, you might as well use Chrome so they have every incentive to ensure that it does and no incentive to stop it. Even if they did, you could switch later just like you could today.

    I’m not trying to convince anyone to use Brave, it has plenty of drawbacks and concerns without pulling random ones out of your ass.

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      3 months ago

      Are you not really in the tech industry? Because he’s right. And he’s sticking to facts.

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      Both Brave and Chrome are built on the open-source Chromium browser engine

      That’s from the Brave website: https://brave.com/compare/chrome-vs-brave/

      Yes there are plenty of changes, but it’s built on it, and shaped by it, and Chromium is heavily influenced by Google. If chromium doesn’t support v2 manifests it is unlikely that Brave will. In this particular case it may be that Brave’s ad blocking and privacy features are equivalent to uBO, but it’s still underpinned by an engine that Google has strong influence over, so it can’t completely shake their influence.

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        3 months ago

        That’s from the Brave website

        Nobody doesn’t know that it’s built on Chromium. The problem is you’re grossly overestimating the influence that Google has or wants. If Google wanted to control it, they would just not create Chromium in the first place, and force you to just use Chrome.

        Do you have any evidence at all that Brave is controlled by Google in any way that is against their will? Anything that prevents them from doing whatever they want? Any evidence at all? Do you really think they wouldn’t say anything if they were?

        GrapheneOS, LineageOS, eOS, CopperheadOS and CalyxOS all work identically but no one points at those and says they’re “controlled” by Google.

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          Look, I’m not attacking them over this, as you rightly said, it has plenty of other drawbacks and concerns, I’m just emphasising that Google do have a large degree of influence over them. For instance, Chromium is dropping manifest v2 support, so Brave pretty much has to do the same. They’ve said that, as Chromium has a switch to keep it enabled until June (iirc) they’ve enabled that, but after Chromium drops manifest v2 the most they can do is try to support a subset of it as best they can. The Brave devs may not want to drop support, but Google have decreed it will be dropped, so they end up dropping it and having to put in extra work to keep even a subset working for some period of time.

          If Brave gets even a moderate market share, Google will continue to mess them around like this as they really don’t like people not seeing their adverts.

          Ultimately it’s software, so the Brave devs can do pretty much whatever they want, limited by the available time and money. Google’s influence extends to making that either easier or harder, it much the same way as they influence the Android ecosystem.

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            3 months ago

            For instance, Chromium is dropping manifest v2 support, so Brave pretty much has to do the same

            I don’t know why we’re going round and round in circles here. We’ve already been over this. It’s not a problem.