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      No it has always been an additional purchase. The only “self driving” mode that’s included by default is their “auto pilot”, which is just TACC with better lane assist so it can take sharper bends in the road without “bouncing” between the lines like most other cars do with lane assist.

      Most people seem to incorrectly think that autopilot and FSD are the same thing, but they are not.

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          Welcome to the tech early adopter world.

          I for one are very happy that there are so many suckers brave bleeding edge tech adopters willing to spend the money and endure the amateur-hour technology put together with spit-and-chewing-gum so that the rest of us get to enjoy the handful of trully useful stuff that survives to become mature products.

          Somebody has to be the cannon-fodder in battling all the fraud and bullshit of present day “Tech” “innovations”, and I for one am glad there are so many volunteers.

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          I mean, that’s not really unique to Tesla customers in any way. Lots of people like to be early adopters of new things, tech more than other things I believe. More often than it’s not very good when they buy in to it.

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          That seems to be region specific then, because I just checked and autopilot is still included by default where i live (northern Europe). Only enhanced autopilot and FSD are additional purchases here.

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            Apparently I’m lying twice over then. You’re probably right about autopilot vs “enhanced autopilot” but I just looked at the order page and only fed is extra cost. It’s also much cheaper than it would have been when I got my Tesla.

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      Aside from cosmetic upgrades, all Teslas are essentially the same, just with certain features disabled/pay walled. So your base model 3 has the exact same battery as the top of the line version because it is cheaper to manufacturer them all that way.

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          That’s correct, there are some respected engineering channels that specifically mention this is why different models of the same EV require different charging behavior per the manufacturer’s manual. The battery compositions are different and have different densities and characteristics.

          Edit: although it’s possible some models could share the exact same battery model and have some software restriction in place.

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          You’re both right, some teslas were sold with their battery software limited. And able to be unlocked via DLC.

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      There is no such thing as “self driving”. It’s literally just a blatant marketing lie. Tesla has:

      • “Autopilot” - comes as standard on all vehicles, most other OEMs refer to this as “advanced cruise control” as all it does it maintain speed and keep you in your lane.
      • “Advanced Autopilot” - adds things like automatic lane changes, summon)
      • “Full Self Driving” - more commonly referred to as “FSD”, the most advanced option with all available features.

      Prices for these vary but the latter 2 are both several thousand dollars.

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      No it has always been an additional purchase. The only “self driving” mode that’s included by default is their “auto pilot”, which is just TACC with better lane assist so it can take sharper bends in the road without “bouncing” between the lines like most other cars do with lane assist.

      Most people seem to incorrectly think that autopilot and FSD are the same thing, but they are not.

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        Most people tend to incorrectly think

        I mean, Musk and Tesla oversold and mismarketed the feature. Don’t blame the consumer here.

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          They distinctly labeled them with names that are not even remotely close in wording, one even with a very clear and precise name of the intended feature set (FSD). I can’t really see how people can think they’re the same TBH, especially considering the clear distinction between the two on their website.

          I 100% agree the feature set of FSD is false marketing and wildy misleading as it’s currently not even close to delivering anything beyond level 2 autonomy, and hasn’t for the past decade since they announced it was “ready end of year”, albeit still more capable than the auto pilot feature (at least in the closed beta).

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            Yes, I can’t see why people would hear ‘Autopilot’ and think it had anything at all to do with full self driving.

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              Why would they when the website specifically and quite clearly distinguishes the two…only a person that makes no effort to understand what they’re talking about would get confused and continue to spread false information.

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                Have you ever talked to other people before? What you discovered is pretty common, unfortunately.