• figaro@lemdro.id
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    4 months ago

    Here’s the thing - most of the people who don’t return their shopping carts don’t even know that this is a test. If they did, their behavior would change. If you know about the test, it fundamentally voids the test. And that is what makes it valid. If there is no pressure, what do they do?

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      4 months ago

      But the ‘test’ is peer pressure, no? Which exists permanently in real life so there will always be a portion of people only returning the cart because of that.

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        4 months ago

        As God, I temporarily relieve the souls who are currently in a rush from the consequences of failing the shopping cart test. They will be tested again, however, using seemingly innocuous daily items to prove if they belong in the good place.

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          Theres lots of reasons someone might feel or be incapable of following all of the social norms. Good and bad reasons. Since we can’t know which is which at a glance its best to withhold judgment.

          Although some cases are like 99% sure and you can totally judge their pants off all you want.

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            4 months ago

            I feel like this was chosen specifically because it’s one of those cases where it’s easy to tell.

            For instance, there was a Walmart next to a bus stop I used to take. People had to take their groceries to the bus, but Walmart didn’t put a shopping cart corral within like 200 meters of it. I don’t really blame people too harshly for leaving their carts there, if they’re taking a big load of groceries on the bus.

            Fwiw it’s not that it’s a social norm that is important, it’s it’s natural as a social good, and it’s nature as something (typically) trivial to do.

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              Its neither a good or bad. It could be argued either way, which makes it a matter of opinion.

              You even have cart returners here in this thread arguing to not return them in some cases.

              The real answer is that whether you put a cart back or not says nothing about someone’s character.

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                3 months ago

                It’s absolutely a good.

                The only “cart returner” I saw against it basically just claimed that the people in their town/state/country were too incompetent to operate shopping carts (even if that’s not what they explicitly said) so idk if i really trust them or want to use that as a measure.

                Making work for others to save yourself some trivial amount of work absolutely says something about your character

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                  3 months ago

                  I’m saying it doesnt rise to the level of determining if someone is a good or bad person. Besides the fact that noone is good or bad.

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                    3 months ago

                    Let me put it another way:
                    They fail the vibe check
                    It’s a red flag

                    Bad vibes and red flags don’t mean for sure someone is a bad person, they’re a call to be alert and suspicious.