I encourage you to look into how an Israeli soldier saying “1 decapitated, 40 burned” got turned into “40 decapitated” by a game of telephone. The Israeli government never claimed that, and clarified when they got asked by journalists.
Context clues mate. Consider the point the person I was replying to was trying to make. I never suggested anything was “okay” for anyone to do, just that the “pro October 7th” narrative they were trying to spin was insane and they had absolutely no idea what they were talking about about.
No, I’m saying this issue is complicated and if your primary sources of information are Twitter and tiktok then you should do some actual research before making blanket statements of good and evil.
The second world gets a pass on ethnic cleansing? What a weird policy.
Who called the IDF “the most moral army in the world”? Certainly not me. However someone peddling a “white oppressor vs brown oppressed” ought to at least know the history of the region.
Tell me about the rights of Jews in any of the surrounding Arab countries first. They don’t have any either, where they weren’t forcibly expelled.
Comparing pre-war Gaza to the Warsaw ghetto is so fucking outlandish that I know you’ve never actually read about it. You probably read that on Twitter and have been parroting it back. I won’t argue with you on there being apartheid, but let’s lay off the extreme hyperbole.
And as for what they were supposed to do? Maybe lay off the terrorism and take one of the several deals they get offered once a decade. They could’ve had statehood with a fucking elevated highway connecting Gaza to the West Bank, but they turned that down. Defending a 9/11 scale terrorist attack on the basis of “what else should they have done” is frankly unconscionable.
You’re confusing a political justification for war against a terrorist organization with a racial justification for genocide. There are millions of arabs living in Israel, and they aren’t being killed. Not everything is systemic racism.
And as far as your history goes you’re missing a bunch of wars the surrounding Arab countries declared on Israel. This isn’t a simple “white people bad” situation.
Nobody is saying this. It’s kind of racist to even assume people are, actually.
Hamas raped a bunch of people on October 7th and the far left can’t handle that without making it a systemic race issue. That’s pretty fucked up.
DNA evidence, fingerprints, blood, etc are all “credible circumstantial information”. It’s a common category of evidence, encompassing pretty much everything except direct testimony.
This is completely, utterly uncontroversial, except by a subset of the extreme far left at war with reality. Let’s see where the downvote ratio ends up.
Hamas will refuse.
The extraverts had the tables turned on them in 2020 and have been itchy for a captive audience ever since. It’s a drug fix for these people, nothing more. I’ve skipped every cross country in-person team building gibberish since 2020 and will continue to do so.
Do we have clarity on whether the shooting caused the stampede, or vice versa? I thought the former, but this source is alleging something a bit more nuanced.
Well said. Genocide has a few definitions, but all involve the intent for wholesale destruction of an ethnic or religious group.
In most cases, we look for large population drops of established groups due to murderous actions as a way to infer intent. The systematic killing of 99% of the Vietnamese population living in Cambodia under Pol Pot might be the most clear example. The killing of ~80% of the Tutsi ethnic group in Rwanda is another.
There are also small-scale examples, such as ISIS killing off ~5000 Iraqi Turkmen. In this case the ethnic group was only targeted in regions ISIS controlled, limiting the damage, but the intent to kill as many as possible was clear.
How you apply this to Gaza is a personal value judgement right now. Only about 1% of the population has been killed, but there are also statements by some Israeli officials demonstrating intent, and some of the IDF actions are at best cavalier.
I believe they would, because Hamas is the one putting out these numbers and they have every incentive to do this as a propaganda win.
Teenage soldiers are a particularly tragic part of this war, being both victims and legitimate targets. Hamas has used child soldiers extensively in the past, and given that the average age in Gaza is about 17, we would expect a large fraction of Hamas soldiers to be teenagers. Further, they would represent the lowest ranking members who would be put in the most danger.
Under IHL, if Israel captures a child soldier they are required to separate them from other POWs and give them counseling and treatment. As a practical matter though, it may be difficult to verify that someone with no ID is 17. It will be interesting to see to what extent they complied with this in a few years.
A 2:1 civilian to soldier killed ratio is actually pretty much average for urban combat. Mosul and Aleppo were both closer to 3:1. Neither were labelled genocide.
The title is “guns down thousands”. That means directly shoots thousands, not 20 in a giant crowd.
Many of the casualties in the chaos that erupted in Gaza at a food distribution site were killed as a result of aid trucks ramming people as people tried to escape Israeli fire, according to a local journalist in Gaza, Khadeer Al Za’anoun.
Al Za’anoun, who was at the scene and witnessed the incident, told CNN that, though there were large crowds waiting for food to be distributed from aid trucks, the chaos and confusion that led to trampling only started once Israeli soldiers opened fire.
“Most of the people that were killed were rammed by the aid trucks during the chaos and while trying to escape the Israeli gunfire,” he said.
He said that around 20 were killed directly by the gunfire, and the rest were killed under the aid trucks’ wheels.
CNN says 20 people were shot, triggering a stampede that killed a lot more. Where did this site get “thousands”?
The candidate… has worked for Iranian-run Press TV and Kremlin-backed Russian TV channel RT
Yikes good luck with that
Seems like they goosed their numbers here for a headline. Tension headaches aren’t well understood, but they’re generally not neurological.