It helps to think of getting sick as the price you pay for boosting your immune system.

So basically anyone who wants to come here can come as long as they are law abiding and not diseased or whatever?

How do you have open borders and yet restrict criminals or suspected terrorists from entering? Either you have no restrictions or you have some restrictions. If you have some restrictions then you will have illegals that need to be deported which means you will need some kind of enforcement to do the deporting. There is no feasible way to run a modern country with truly open borders.

It also won’t prevent you from collecting a gang and bullying people.

So nothing then. If you want something then you take it, if you are more powerful. That sounds problematic.

Well in the context of the original story, who is the Nazis? Is it the Chinese government putting peaceful Christians in jail? Or is it the Christians themselves who present a danger to society, thereby justifying their incarceration/disappearance. Seems like the answer should be obvious, and yet people don’t agree.

Nah that’s just a way to justify being intolerant while acting like you value tolerance.

Yeah? Did they throw you in jail for your beliefs? Or try to kill you? There’s a difference between expressing an ignorant or bigoted opinion, compared to infringing on someone’s human rights.

At this point the paradox of intolerance is used to justify intolerance more than it’s used to prevent intolerance.

While I don’t disagree with you, that isn’t at all what he said.

I got a feeling it’s just a particular religion. The level of moral and mental integrity in this thread is abysmal…

Lol that’s your takeaway? If you are against oppression except when it’s against people you don’t like, then you support oppression.

Sweden has some of the best policies for having kids: doesn’t cost anything, a year of maternity AND paternity leave for each kid you have, plus they straight up give you money. Birth rate is 1.45.

We don’t have a political party who stands for that, even though the majority of normal people want it, on both sides of the aisle.

In Minnesota they had a Somalian candidate for mayor who lost because of tribalism within the Somali community. Somalians from different tribes would not vote for him. So then some of the Somali leaders came together and said we are all Somali and should be voting together or we will not take power from the white people. More tribalism.

Ah, a proponent of the wet market theory I see.

No it’s ironic commentary on how easily people can justify horrific things happening to people they don’t like.

As long as it is someone we don’t like, then yes.

Edit: oops, I guess I need the /s

I agree. One thing that bugs me about lemmy is how intellectually dishonest and blind people are when it comes to their own biases.

Everyone (pretty much) agrees that fascism is bad, but Antifa is a movement that means more than anti fascism. Antifa is branding or marketing in the same way that the anti defamation league is, or like the patriot act put a certain spin on a bill that stripped privacy rights from citizens. Groups use branding to gain power and aren’t all encompassing as to their motives or actions. In the case of antifa it’s less of an actual organization and more of a rallying cry that gets used for a wide variety of people with different motives, and it’s detractors point to a wide variety of actions or intents (real or imagined) when criticizing it.