Being “ready” means nothing, it is just a thought in your head. Praxis requires that you act. You aren’t ready for an uprising if you aren’t actually organizing towards one yourself. And I have yet to meet a successful revolutionary organizer that tries to sheepdog for literally genocidal Democrats.

I haven’t advocated for “doing nothing”, I have advocated against supporting genocide from both a moralizing and electorally strategic angle. I choose these angles because it is the language most people will understand and because the propaganda that I oppose in the process teaches people to give up leverage and cheerlead, which is literally disempowering.

If people want recommendations on something positive to do, I would recommend joining the Uncommitted Movement if you prefer electoralism. If you are interested in politics that also extends beyond electoralism, I would be happy to provide advice on any local groups and reading materials.

I never did that. You projected that, and just now, lied about it.

No, it can be understood from how you use the terms. You are adding “Chinese” as a bit of negative spice to your false claim that I am lying or spreading false propaganda. When challenged on this, you attempted to (incorrectly, this is not how language works) redefine “Chinese” to mean “CCP” and, per the typical crypto-sinophobic incantation, not the Chinese people. You then continued to interchangeably use Chinese and CCP as negative epithets.

Your attempt at redefinition actually just dug a new hole. You could just say, “oh wow I don’t mean to suggest that, I will stop” instead of doubling down on treating Chinese like an insult.

I do. I clearly defined the usage, and don’t give two shits about projection from you, or your twisting of the definition.

Your conflation of something being Chinese with something being bad is xenophobic regardless of whether you want to pretend you can redefine it to mean something it doesn’t.

You have claimed, falsely, that China isn’t escalating violence against its neighbors.

I actually haven’t said anything like this. Please provide quotes with your claims because your recollection is incorrect.

Everyone can see that you are, in fact, a CCP shill.

Is that so? When can I expect to receive a check for my valiant effort in knowing installing a nuclear-capable missile is far more escalatory than the tiniest airspace toe dip of a flight path over ocean? Only the finest in professional propagandists could have such an opinion!

They will not exist so long as you vote for “lesser evil” genociders. Why would there be? You still vote for them! They don’t need to listen to you at all and will gladly continue the project that is in their overall material interest in supporting Israel. You show up in their databases as, “Likely Democratic voter” and so they send some volunteers to try to get you to vote and they ask you for money. That is how you are thought of, and I mean this literally. That is how they curate and use their information. The rest is PR for how to ensure you don’t take these looney anti-genociders too seriously.

There is no “push from there” without leverage. If they don’t do what you want, what are you going to do? With what power? If you mske a threat, why is it credible? We are kept docile and ineffective through electoral illogic that serves the interests of the existing political class and cannot imagine gaining or wielding power in any practical way.

What is the logic for supporting 99% Hitler when you could actually choose to work against 99% Hitler and Hitler himself? This is genocide, not a marginal tax bracket you can lesser evil about. The systematic destruction of a people is as bad as it gets, generally speaking.

If you support this and tell other people to vote for it, you are complicit.

In the context of this particular discussion, China = The CCP ≠ The Chinese people.

I dunno, I think Chinese means Chinese. It sounds like you just throw this around as an epithet and it is sinophobic. Please do some reflection on whether you are okay with xenophobia.

As far as which one are lies? Your entire post history is nothing but Chinese propaganda and lies.

Name one from this comment chain.

It’s not xenophobic to call out CCP bullshit like the shit you are spouting.

Such as?

That’s called being a good human.

I don’t think it’s good human behavior to use xenophobic rhetoric.

The Biden-Harris administration will say they are troubled and then provide $3 billion more to Israel.

The constitutional amendment that outlawed slavery in the US provided one exception: anyone convicted of a crime.

This was a tool of Jim Crow to maintain a sizeable black slave labor force via disproportionate criminalization of black people and poverty (newly-freed previous slaves were very poor, often illiterate). It was and is a tool of modern racialized hyper-exploited labor via the prison system. And it is likely a tool that US authorities are keeping in their back pocket for the mass criminalization of the homeless.

Just because a weapons platform is capable of using nuclear warheads doesn’t mean we are going to hand said warheads over. The system has plenty of conventional warheads.

The weapons system was prohibited specifically because of its use with nuclear weapons. This is its distinguishing feature. This is the “message” being sent, though it also isn’t just a message because it is an actual offensive weapon.

Deployment of a weapons system as a deterrent is proportional.

It is obviously not.

You’re spreading Chinese lies.

I am? Which ones? Are Chinese lies a special kind?

Sounds to me like you are flirting with xenophobia.

Yeah, the person above you seems to be ignoring the fact that them breaching their air space for the first time is an escalation, not to mention China has generally been escalating it’s rhetoric recently.

Surely this makes offensive missiles designed for nukes a proportional response to a plane with no weapons briefly dipping a toe into Japanese airspace over ocean on one of its several circles.

I haven’t ignored anything, I’m just aware of how absurd this is. No one saying this is a reasonable response can claim to care about escalation.

It could be argued that China is feeling pressured to escalate (due to external events or US escalating trade/policy stances), but threatening a missile system is more signaling “keep this up and we’ll respond”.

By nuking them?

It sounds like you aren’t in a place to decide whether to engage or not, and aren’t asking for help, so I will assist you by ignoring the replies you make for the next day or two.

If, after that, you would like to have a good faith engagement, I’d be happy to do so.

See the map at the bottom of this article: https://www.newsweek.com/china-responds-japan-airspace-violation-danjo-islands-1944781

The plane circled over an area near the islands, then dipped a toe into Japanese airspace. China says it was unintentional.

Responding with an escalation of missile deployments is not exactly proportional. Escalation in general is a very risky thing and doing so casually is reckless and can get people killed.

You say you don’t want to engage, but you keep replying. Can I help you with this is any way?

If you don’t want to engage, then you should probably stop replying.

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They didn’t mention it so why would I address it? You don’t seem particularly ready to have a good faith discussion, either.

Please engage in good faith

Please try to engage in good faith.

This is a great example of the hyperfocus on irrelevant details that plagues these comments. It was intentional, but even if it wasn’t, so what? “Your argument has a typo, therefore you’re dunked!”?

How was saying “dialect” a doge reference? What?

Anyways I told you exactly why it was relevant in the second sentence you quoted. Do you not see the contradiction between being condescending about a topic without being able to refer to its concepts by name? It isn’t even a spelling error, it is a different word entirely.

The issue is that the comment is pablum. It doesn’t actual say anything, it’s not informative. It’s hoping you’ll infer something yourself and then waste time assuming what they meant. As

I would say its meaning is obvious and you’re being obtuse.

As mentioned in a previous comment, I realize that one of the things it’s trying to get you to infer is that decadent western media is bad or whatever

Yes, I am aware of and criticized this misapprehension.

Arguing that there’s only one thing it’s trying to communicate is a great example of the black and white thinking that plagues tankies.

It’s a meme with one point and you are repeatedly announcing that you don’t get that one lightting would prefer to substitute in the things you want to think about instead.

“You’re meant to ask why” is so embarrassingly vapid that I’m surprised you’re defending it.

How is it vapid? It feels like you just have a grab-bag of negative words that you’re applying willy-nilly rather than addressing what I said. You have skipped over the vast majority of what I said, by the way.

Of course people will focus on big issues like “let’s try to make sure this country continues to exist” over “let’s try to help this country improve itself”.

You are being so vague that I have to guess you are still trying to discuss the meme and that you are contrasting Ukrainians fighting Russia with Ukraine having a Nazi problem. Let me know how accurate this guess is and I will be able to respond.

There will hopefully be time for more of that later after Putin’s invasion fails. I mean come on, this is pretty basic stuff. Do you think I’d be arguing in good faith if I said “Yeah, what’s happening in Palestine is bad, but have you seen their LGBTQ record”? It’s also again, not saying something, it’s JAQing off.

The people that try to pinkwash Israel’s genocide do so in order to justify genocide. They want to create deserving victims so that you do not materially oppose their genocide and instead support it by trying to get people to vote for genocide supporters and villify the people taking action in solidarity.

Ukraine having a Nazi problem is not used by people at Hexbear to say that Ukrainians deserve to die. But it is directly relevant to the civil war since Euromsidan, as Nazis have been the dedicated military cadres terrorizing the people of Donbas and they have absurdly high profiles, likely being behind several decisions including the ethnic cleansing campaigns, the celebration if Bandera, increased anti-labor and antisemitic attacks. It is not, “Ukrainians are bad and deserving because some are Nazis”. It is, “the Nazis sure do call a lot of shots and do Nazi things in Ukraine and you shouldn’t justify the Azov Brigade”.

I was told there’d be informative comments with sources. There were not.

This is simply false. The post with the image you reposted cites 9 mainstream sources alone.

Can we agree to a baseline of, “not saying false things in purpose”? I always assume this to be the default, but unfortunately you are behaving poorly towards me and others.

I elided some of the comment that makes it more clear:

I see what happened. Your “poor Putin” comment refers to the quote that followed it rather than the previous, as implied.

This is imperialist sympathizing, and the OP should feel ashamed. “Putin just had to invade Ukraine because of those other meanie imperialists that didn’t want him in their club!”

If there is something for OP to feel bad about there, it is being too cavalier using Great Man Theory logic despite knowing better. But their comment is overall accurate if you understand it as the Russian capitalist ruling class (of which Putin is a member). They did attempt to become part of the global imperialist order alongside Europe, the US, et al and were instead excluded and pushed towards third world status.

If you think communists are sympathetic to capitalists trying to get a bigger piece of the pie, you are very confused. Understanding how capitalists fight each other and put us all through the meat grinder in the process is an important part of being communist, however.

Also “crypto fascists who run NATO will never forgive the Slavic peoples for destroying the third reich” is just straight facepalm material.

NATO was literally originally staffed by Nazis and used them to continue a maximum pressure anticommunist campaign immediately after the Nazis had attempted with varying degrees of success to depopulate the countries to its east of Jewish people, slavs, gay people, Roma, and communists. That legacy has survived, with NATO serving primarily as an offensive weapon against designated enemies of the imperialist bloc. For example, turning Libya from the highest HDI country in Africa into a country controlled by warlords with open air slave markets. The Western opposition to Nazis was, historically, that they turned West and invaded through France and bombed England rather than staying focused on the shared enemy to the east. They were happy to capitulate and support Nazus right up until the push West.

So as a shorthand quip I would say it is pretty accurate.

None of my answers were random, they were direct responses to what you said, complete with quotes so that you can follow the logic.

Let me know when you are ready to engage with what I’ve said.