• SNES was the ultimate From childhood until the release of Nintendo 64
• In high school it was a PC with a mouse and keyboard.
• Now it’s a PC with an xbox controller. Using a mouse and keyboard reminds me too much of work.

There is a PS5, a Switch, and a Steamdeck, in the house plus several more devices in the garage. I’ll watch other people play but gaming on dedicated hardware just doesn’t grab me. I’ve never tried gaming on a phone.

This resonates with me. I love all the packages but yes the gigabytes downloaded to build something and the sheer time taken is not fun at all. Syntax is ugly IMO as well. It’s still my go to for strongly and statically typed languages in spite of everything though. Maybe you’re right about the hype train hitting me. :)

What you call hype I call a strong and growing ecosystem. ;)

Honestly it’s been fun chatting with you. I think we are sort of opposites. You seem to like hobby languages. I like well used languages. You are tired of hearing about what’s popular. I’m excited about other programmers being excited.

I am curious what turned you off when you were actually using Rust. Or did you mostly lose interest because other people endorse it?

Fun stuff :)

Part of what make Python amazing is pip and everything that’s already been built. For a strongly typed and statically typed language with a large and growing ecosystem I’m drawn to Rust even though I don’t think it’s pretty.

nim looks good at a glance. I tend to stick with marketable programming languages so there are so many I don’t know about. I personally think that using the optional strong typing features are enough to make Python a joy to use. But yes, other people’s code can be cumbersome.

Python is probably the top non-systems language for productivity and expressiveness right now if you use type hints.

What is the meaning of “making a function” in your sentence?