It’s still wrong as it would still be the DM’s fault for manipulating someone else to harm other people.
Or did going full Joker become moral while I was away?
It’s still wrong as it would still be the DM’s fault for manipulating someone else to harm other people.
Or did going full Joker become moral while I was away?
No, you’re not understanding my point. I’m analyzing what’s happening and rightfully blaming the DM for those deaths because they’re his fault.
Would you blame someone if they gave an AR-15 to someone they knew was gonna commit a mass shooting?
I put an ethical dilemma in front of a Paladin. I do not consider this evil.
No, you knowingly put innocent people in harm’s way because you wanted to get one over on someone. That, by anyone’s standard except yours, is evil. That ain’t gonna change.
Having used to be that bum, yes, I can say emphatically what they’re doing is evil by conventional standards. I agree wholeheartedly with what they do, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s evil and by that game’s standards they should die.
Items like that go by the standards established in the game and that means that homeless dude is gonna die. Conventional western morals dictate he be jailed, at least, and most Americans do want people like that exterminated because they dehumanize the homeless. Even restorative justice types don’t actually view or treat homeless people like humans let alone peers. Homeless populations are pretty universally reviled, and as good and evil always boil down to our feelings and popularity contests, that’s what makes them evil in the eyes of others.
I am not agreeing with the notion, just saying what it is. Personally I think humanity is inherently evil so all humans should die from such an item or a spell. But no one would take my opinion into account so this morality-is-relative crap people are pulling to dispute the veracity of the sword doesn’t hold water either.
Debatable. I don’t really think the thing is about what people deserve. A sword like that could be used for all kinds of different things, not just some moral crusade.
Hell, I’d use it to detect so-called good people without the stabbing and avoid them. The worst kind of people are good ones. Goodness itself is a kind of evil.
People are quibbling over what is good and evil but no one considers how useful a sword like that would be. D&D already has a hard-coded alignment system with predictable behaviors associated with each alignment so implying good and evil are subjective is meaningless.
Then again, morality itself is pretty meaningless so 🤷
See, here’s my problem with that: humanity is inherently evil so everyone would be killed by such a thing.
I don’t think a cow can be good or evil.
a hateful bitter man who antagonizes everyone but obeys the law
As one of those hateful bitter people in the eyes of others who still is lawful, I emphatically tell you that we are evil and absolutely would and should be killed by Holy Word and other such spells.
a teenager
Wait, what?
Actually everyone on your list should be killed by that spell, even the teenager though I vehemently disagree with that.
Like you can sit there and quibble about what is actually evil or not but this is magic, and what matters is what the majority of people consider evil, and they all hit the mark. Most adults are ageist bigots who’d wipe out all teenagers on a dime if they could, for example, even though that’s pretty evil.
Good and evil are honestly pretty meaningless.
It also defeats the point of the exercise. The paladin is nolonger responsible for the murder of those innocents because he was lied to about the true nature of the sword and would have no way to find out the truth without killing an innocent person.
So it’s not the paladin doing the killings, it’s the DM.
As if you aren’t evil by lying to the player.
And as if they won’t successfully dispute it.
Yeah, I’m sure someone who won’t put up with you trying to frame pedophiles in a positive light would be a monster in your eyes. Can’t have anyone actually hold the pond scum you’re protecting accountable in any meaningful way. How else would you fulfill your pathological need to feel needed?
You keep living up to your namesake and you’re going to find yourself in a gutter with a crack pipe and an empty bottle of Jim Beam, dude. Seriously.
I’m sure you do, you fucking idiot.
Boy, you really don’t have any actual reading comprehension, do you?
Or you are a pedophile out here concern trolling protecting your fucked up brethren.
Guess your username checks out too
Tell us you’re not actually paying attention without telling us you’re not actually paying attention
There are people who have messed up brains, who are attracted to kids, and hate themselves for it. They seek help (usually through lots of chemical treatments), and use the term MAP to separate themselves from the pedos.
This is a lie meant to make pedophiles come off as sympathetic. They’re ALL terrible and there is no distinction between one pedo and another. If there’s anything that horrific instance should have shown anyone, it’s that. Any pedo who claims they hate themselves for it and are getting therapy are lying to you.
Maybe actually read what’s being said before blowing a gasket.
Username checks out
There are actual retards out in the wild that use the term to describe pedophiles unironically. No one likes them. Bully them.
I fucking despise Rogue One and would rather sit through Jar-Jar Binks singing Bohemian Rhapsody through the duration of the entire song than to have to sit and watch that monstrosity of a movie again.
I do not want to watch some poor girl get told off, put down, and kicked down by everyone else around her simply because she was a sacrificial lamb for the overarching plot and everyone else knew it but her. And that’s all Rogue One was.
I liked it too but it is very obviously a bad BAD BAD movie.
Yet here we are, and evil we are. Case closed
You can go ahead and waste time beleaguering the point if you want. It’s not gonna change the fact that humanity is inherently evil whether you like it or not.
If it makes you feel better, it means I am evil too. Then again, so are you. We all are. It’s just the natural state of being human.