Chris Ely

I take it you weren’t aware that Google Wave was based on XMPP.

https://www.networkworld.com/article/757722/opensource-subnet-nine-new-apps-that-show-off-the-power-of-google-wave.html

@onlinepersona

> How do they manage to make the same messages appear on multiple devices?

For a long time, they didn’t.

I don’t know for sure, but I expect it involves keys that multiple devices share. Any “linked” device would be able to download the encrypted copy and decrypt the message that way. Once any device has done that, it can send a copy to any other devices using the unique keys it knows for that device.

This link describes independent queues for devices: https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/5532268300186-Disappearing-Messages-with-a-Linked-Device

@MacNCheezus

> Signal stores all your messages and media as well, the difference is they encrypt it on their servers.

What evidence do you have to support this claim?

The last time I looked into this, messages and media were only stored encrypted on servers until they were retrieved or expired.

After that, the local device is where things are stored.

@MacNCheezus

Eventually, the list of things Samsung doesn’t make is going to be shorter.

@Reverendender

Why don’t you ask the Matrix team why they decided to re-invent XMPP and add a stupid HTTP API?

@onlinepersona
@netchami

Don’t negotiate with or give in to terrorists!

@ohlaph

It’s both amazing and annoying that Google is perfectly able to create useful apps for iOS (despite the huge limitations the OS imposes) but Apple can’t figure out how to make any Android app that isn’t utter crap with fewer restrictions imposed on them.

@d3Xt3r
@hesusingthespiritbomb

Installing from F-Droid prevents sales like this from causing silent “upgrades” to advertising-infested versions.

@kpw

Done.

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server

@MonkderZweite

Try out any of these:

- Session @session
- SimpleX @simplex
- Threema @threemaapp

They all don’t require a phone number, which makes them immediately better than Signal, for devices that don’t have a SIM.

@rustyriffs
@u_tamtam

> I would argue that bad experiences aren’t due to trains but due to poor investment and management.

I agree. I used trains to get to school as a commuter.

Nothing makes a train more unusable than not knowing when it will arrive at the destination (it was sometimes hours late) or if it will show up at all (the schedule was constantly changing, and some trains would just be cancelled when equipment was broken).

@luthis @scarabic

Google and Samsung were the only apps to implement RCS (and the infrastructure to support the app) so far.

Nothing Google has done prevents any other organizations that want to invest the time and money from also implementing the standard.

https://www.gsma.com/futurenetworks/rcs/universal-profile/

Apple, on the other hand, doesn’t allow iMessage apps or servers that they didn’t create themselves. Or even an SMS/RCS app on their devices.

@NENathaniel

RCS has always been an open standard.

Only Google has done the work to implement it for billions of devices, so far.

That has never prevented Apple from also implementing the standard on their devices.

https://www.gsma.com/futurenetworks/rcs/universal-profile/

@13617 @Corgana

RCS is already an open standard, that’s why Apple is and always has been able to implement it themselves without relying on Google for anything.

@NENathaniel @kirklennon

I surely do!

Try Session or SimpleX or Threema.

Threema is the oldest and most polished option. You do have to buy a license for a one-time fee though. It’s entirely worth the play store credit I spent, but if I were to buy now, I’d use their website store so I could use the open source app instead.

@comfydecal
@u_tamtam

You can get good battery life from a Pixel 6, 7, or 8 series device even with stock Android.

It only gets better when flashing a custom OS, particularly GrapheneOS, because you have more control over which apps can be running or using the network / location chips because radio or location can chew through battery charge very quickly.

@Corkyskog

This video covers most of your questions.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qxAnWYUvDxg

Alternative 🔗:
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qxAnWYUvDxg
https://piped.video/watch?v=qxAnWYUvDxg

@Corkyskog

The Android Open Source Project (AOSP) is the base for both operating systems.

GrapheneOS actually makes a lot of effort to provide solutions that are mostly better than what stock Android provides.

https://grapheneos.org/features#sandboxed-google-play

@Corkyskog

@GrapheneOS is an alternative OS that provides better privacy than the stock Android that can be installed on Pixel devices.

https://grapheneos.org/install/

> GrapheneOS is a private and secure mobile operating system with great functionality and usability.

@Corkyskog

At the quoted speed, I think they should be legally obligated to provide 15,821 TB of data transfer per month, at a bare minimum.

@yote_zip
@whfsdude