Would you pay a yearly fee to continue getting updates for your now no longer being updated but perfectly fine otherwise phone? I would.

Good question. At that point I’d explore replacing the OS altogether with GapheneOS or LineageOS.

When it comes to cars though, I don’t find FSD an appealing enough value to continue paying (or even begin to pay in the first place). But to your point, that doesn’t mean Tesla shouldn’t price it how they want and people to buy it if they wish.

I see where you’re coming from. And I also agree with the subscription heated seats.

I think we might actually be advocating for the same thing lol. I was making the argument that manufacturers should have a one-time price for things that are packaged along with the product (with the exception of features like FSD that requires a continuing service to operate and evolve), but jailbreaking static features like heated seats is fair game.

However, your post got me thinking… If it is reasonable for FSD to be a subscription model, how are FSD updates different than, let’s say, your phone having updates and security patches? We don’t currently pay for new versions of iOS or Android. Granted the complexity and stake of FSD is greater than a phone, it is similar fundamentally

Your original reply stated that “including heated seats and making you pay once to access it is fair game” is what prompted my reply. Users shouldn’t be paying for it if it comes with the product, disabled or not.

I have no qualms about subscriptions for FSD due to continuing developments and improvements, and the fact that it requires a service running AI/ML models to operate. However the drastic subscription cost changes over 3 years raises an eyebrow. From $5000 in 2019 to $15000 in 2022 is quite a drastic change. They certainly have the right to price how they want, but definitely an insane pricing model.

If you pay to add a feature to a product that was previously not available, sure, that makes sense. But in this case, at the point of the transaction, and they hand over the keys, the ownership of the product is now 100% transferred to the customer. They should and can do whatever they want with their property. A manufacturer equipping a feature because it’s cheaper is frankly not the customer’s problem.

Imagine buying a house but you only get access to certain rooms. They set the price, the customer just pays for it. If they want to cover the cost of adding the heated seats feature, then add it to the starting price.

I hope you realize that many innovations we use today on Earth is thanks to innovations created for space exploration. It’s unfortunate that many don’t seem think be able to see that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spinoff_technologies

Given the sheer amount of data on Reddit, this is really not feasible nor scalable, nor is a long term solution. A simple CloudFlare configuration will quickly put an end to such a solution.

RSS exists, however only allows you to subscribe to subreddit posts, not comments.

This is why the API changes are such a big deal.