• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        Is that a “straw man” I smell?

        Alright, I’m sure you can explain what the meme means and how it has absolutely nothing to do with an implication that glass bottles are less environmentally ruinous than plastic. By all means, I’m all ears.

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          The meme has to do with “ancient tech” vs. “progress.” The pictures could be “old internet” vs enshittified internet. Or, a calculator vs chatGPT. Or, old electric cars vs tech platforms with wheels.

          The point being what we often call “progress” is in fact the opposite. You know, the “words” I “actually used” in the meme … vs. the straw man you created.

          Theories abound as to why toddlers are more interested in things that “defy expectation.” The bouncier, the more attraction. The shinier, the more the attraction … etc. Marketers know this well and exploit it. We’re not logical — we knee jerk react instead actually thinking about the thing in front of us.

          Like assuming, without really thinking about it, that this meme is about glass vs. plastic.

          No. It’s about the title. Again, the words I “said.” Which were “The Human Condition.”

          Thank you for providing a stunning exemplar of my point.

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        1 month ago

        He’s literally offering you a direct rebuttal. Do you even know what the term “straw man” means?

        A straw man argument is a fallacy where someone sets up and attacks a position that is not being debated.

        Your meme DIRECTLY suggests a return to glass, and he literally offered up evidence that glass is not a solution because it’s actually more ruinous to the environment than plastics are.

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          Does it really? Or, do you only look at pictures when you “read.” See my recent response to PugJesus below. You commit the same logical fallacy. Sure, it’s (perhaps) a direct rebuttal to the pictures. But, the meme is more than that if you actually read the words. And, the words are the “argument.”

          So, to answer your question: Yes. I understand logical fallacies well. PugJesus “sets up and attacks a position that is not being debated.”