Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy asserted that no world leader has the right to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin on behalf of Ukraine.

Speaking to Le Parisien readers, Zelenskyy emphasized that Ukraine alone determines its future and any dialogue with Russia must follow a peace plan based on strength and international support.

He warned against negotiating without clear guarantees of security, highlighting the risks of Putin resuming aggression after a ceasefire.

Zelenskyy called for a strategy ensuring Ukraine’s long-term stability and security, beyond NATO or EU membership timelines.

  • GuitarSon2024@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    This is a solid take, but the other side of the issue is the question of how long will it take the brainwashed Russian population to realize the economy has passed a point of no return? Outside of major cities much of Russia lives in 3rd world poverty. Will they even notice if the ruble falls to zero?

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      3 days ago

      Some might not notice a change in the economy, but they will notice that their sons are being taken and that they are not coming back.

      Approximately 1 in 1000 Russian males have now been killed. How many more will have to die for the average Russian to say “no more” is a tough question.

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          2 days ago

          I used a population of 143,000,000 divided by an estimated death toll in Ukraine of 70,000 and assumed half of the russian population is female.

          1 in 100 might be correct if you only consider men of a fighting age.

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            Holy shit, I haven’t looked at the numbers in a while, but

            • Russian population: 140 000 000
            • Male population: 70 000 000
            • Male fighting age population (18 - 60 years): Very approximately 50 000 000 (I honestly just made up a number a bit smaller than 70)
            • Documented KIA: 85 000
            • Projected actual KIA: 170 000 (Note: Prigozin claimed 120 000 KIA in June 2023)
            • Projected number of severely wounded: Roughly 500 000

            Result:

            • Roughly 0.34 % fighting age men killed
            • Roughly 1 % of fighting age men severely wounded

            This has to be getting close to a point where most Russians know someone personally that has been killed or severely wounded in the war…

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              I heard a while ago that a very well connected person (the sort of person that doesn’t need to work and could spend all their free time maintaining family relations and friendships) would really only be able to maintain family relations and friendships with about two hundred people. The sort of people that say “I have 1000 friends on Facebook” are talking complete bollocks, there’s a huge difference between a relationship/friendship and an acquaintance that you haven’t talked to for fifteen years. The average person truly knows many less people than this, usually in the low dozens.

              Using your figures and assuming that these relationships are 50/50 male/female, even these very well connected people would statistically only know one injured soldier and only have a 1/3 chance of personally knowing someone that was killed.

              I know this comment extrapolates quite a bit and the idea is somewhat of a tangent from the original comment, but I think it’s quite interesting.