Updated: Israel denies involvement in deadly Gaza hospital blast, says explosion caused by Islamic Jihad

  • Fredselfish@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Yeah they aren’t victims they have been doing shit like this to Palestinian for long time.

    • filister@lemmy.world
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      And all the UN resolutions condemning them and all the human rights watch groups exposing them and still not an open condemnation from any Western democracy.

      Seriously I want to see what Biden will say after this. If he continues to support this regime, it would be a disgrace

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        1 year ago

        And the answer was?

        “Based on what I’ve seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you,”

        Biden says after fully hugging Netanyahu. So that’s a point for spineless apologist that will always see Israel as a team sport that only his side is the good one.

        Reminder that Grandpa already had to walk back (or his PR team did for him since he didn’t actually say anything about it personally other than the lie) about dozens of beheaded Israeli children.
        So, don’t expect that condemnation any time soon no matter what Israel does. He clearly won’t ever mind.

      • shadysus@lemmy.ca
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        This shouldn’t be a controversial take either. Even WITHIN Israel, the majority of Israeli’s want Netanyahu and his administration gone. There were massive protests over months over the years of corruption. There are criminal charges filed against him and his family. Right now after the attacks, there are widespread calls for his resignation and an investigation into why the response to the initial attacks were so bad.

        Given all that, it doesn’t make sense for any world leader to continue to support his administration. Especially if countries are meant to be allies of the Israeli people.

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          Idk, hes at least going to Israel and has two carrier groups next door. Geopolitics is always a game of “pin the tail on the utter bastard” (Historical example: Belgium still has chocolate cookies in the shape of hands! Thanks, leo).

          It’s a stunningly unexpected move that biden has even done this much towards israel, and it seems like a pretty clear overture.

          oh and yeah, what do you want him to do here? US boots on the ground in the middle of yet another proxy war is the most direct solution though I understand why he’s hesitant to play that card against an actively genocidal religious dictatorship that has nuclear weapons

          I hate that I’m defending biden but come on man you know it’s more complicated than your take implies.

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            If there wasn’t an extremely consequential election next year that MIGHT conceivably happen, if Biden decided he wasn’t running for reelection that would be more in the cards. But there’s no way he does something that volatile, shit I don’t know if any candidate would, even if it is the correct move and/or the right thing to do it’s political dynamite. Not weighing in one way or the other, that’s a huge decision that would have huge ripple effects. It could straight start WW3(if we aren’t already in it), hand Trump the election, kick off a Civil War 2 BEFORE the election. I’m all for stopping the genocide Israel is committing, and even taking extreme measure, but I cannot see that happening during this admin in this moment.

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              But I was… describing things he’s doing… what? He’s actively doing politically unpopular things right now. Like, as I type this he is doing them, in response to this fucking stupid war.

    • hotdaniel@lemmy.zip
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      But it was Hamas that blew up the hospital. You know, the literal terrorist organization known for attacking its citizens?

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        We don’t know who it was. 500 people are confirmed dead in this incident and countless others are missing, and the best thing you can think to do is come in here and vehemently assign blame?

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          To be clear, I’m responding to people who have already assigned blame to Israel for this. If you’re opposed to jumping to conclusions, you should be calling out those top-level comments. Go on.

          The 500 number, to my knowledge, is an exaggeration and the source was a Hamas spokesperson. Do you have a source for that number?

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            You really just have one single play in your playbook, don’t you? Please, for fucks sake, just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.

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              From the article:

              The Hamas-run Health Ministry in the Gaza Strip says at least 500 people have been killed in an explosion that it says was caused by an Israeli airstrike

              You’re using Hamas as a source. That’s pretty embarrassing.

              • Lemmyboi@sh.itjust.works
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                It’s not hamas run, that just iserali media manager told them to say, it’s literally a Christian hospital