Updated: Israel denies involvement in deadly Gaza hospital blast, says explosion caused by Islamic Jihad

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    1 year ago

    Biden said that he believes the US intelligence that points to it being an errant rocket coming from the Palestinian side of the fence.

    That said, at this point, is anyone going to believe what anyone says?

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        Call me crazy but I’m inclined to believe US intelligence over the health minister of Hamas. Yet I will wait for the UN report that will be conducted to know for certain.

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            Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

            Are you seriously trying to equate bush who pushed thru the Iraq war without approval

            Since you clearly know FUCK ALL about US history:

            The Constitution vests the power of declaring war in Congress; therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they shall have deliberated upon the subject, and authorized such a measure.

            So said President George Washington in 1793. President George W. Bush thinks he knows better. He does promise to “consult” with Congress before launching a massive invasion of Iraq. And he does not rule out seeking a vote of approval. But as a matter of law, his administration claims, Bush is free to initiate a major war all by himself.

            https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2002/09/an-invasion-of-iraq-requires-the-approval-of-congress/378094/

            Now, go ahead, tell me again that Biden is the same breed of war monger. The man who lost a son in the line of duty

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      US and Israel have basically been in lockstep for decades (despite the whole supposed Obama/Netanyahu row), this isn’t really worth anything.

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          Nobody does. Even someone with the best reputation could be lying, too. People need to stop taking governments on faith like that, it’s absolutely moronic. If they didn’t present evidence that you took the time to evaluate for yourself whether or not it was proof, you just don’t know at all.

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        US and Israel have basically been in lockstep for decades (despite the whole supposed Obama/Netanyahu row), this isn’t really worth anything.

        Absolutely NOT true. The US pressured Israel into allowing aid to flow into gaza, turn on other necessities, etc. They have condemned the Hamas terrorist attack that brutally targeted civilians (akin to our 9/11) and thus the US ‘stood’ with Israel in that regard, understanding exactly what that feels like.

        Israel’s war cabinet on Wednesday approved the entry of humanitarian aid into Gaza from Egypt after pressure from the U.S. and other countries.

        https://www.axios.com/2023/10/18/gaza-humanitarian-aid-entry-israel-netanyahu-biden

        The story doesn’t end there:

        President Biden warned Israel in an interview aired on Sunday not to reoccupy Gaza, his first significant public effort to restrain America’s ally in the wake of the Hamas assault that killed more than 1,300 people, including at least 29 Americans.

        Mr. Biden has offered staunch support for Israel since the Oct. 7 attack and refused to criticize Israel for its retaliatory siege of Gaza, the coastal enclave controlled by Hamas, even as U.N. officials have warned of a humanitarian crisis there. But in the new interview, he cautioned against a full-scale occupation of Gaza.

        “I think it’d be a big mistake,” Mr. Biden told “60 Minutes” on CBS in a conversation taped on Thursday and aired on Sunday night. “Look, what happened in Gaza, in my view, is Hamas and the extreme elements of Hamas don’t represent all the Palestinian people. And I think that it would be a mistake for Israel to occupy Gaza again.” But “taking out the extremists” there, he added, “is a necessary requirement.”

        https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/15/us/politics/biden-israel-gaza.html

        The U.S. will send $100 million in aid for humanitarian assistance to civilians in Gaza and the West Bank, President Joe Biden said on Wednesday. “This money will support more than 1 million displaced in conflict affected Palestinians, including emergency needs in Gaza,” Biden said Wednesday during a speech in Tel Aviv.

        https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/18/biden-humanitarian-aid-gaza-west-bank-00122212

        but go ahead, just claim us = Israel, you clearly don’t give a fuck about reality so why not?