I watched a Warframe (game) YouTube video on the Steam integrated browser, without beeing connected to my account and Holly s* it was horrible.
In a 14 minutes video, I got 5 ads. 1 (or more skippable once) at the beginning, 1 during the first half of the video, 2 during the second half, and 1 at the end.
All were skippable after 5 sec.
2 were close together at about 1 min interval during the second half of the video.
But that is not the only issue. 4 of those ads (not the last one at the end), were Israeli hate/war anti-hamas propaganda.
I consider these ads horrible and they should not be allowed in my opinion.
Most people, including myself, seem to agree, that ads were never the problem. When YouTube started, it had ads too and nobody cared. But the ads got worse and websites started to shove them down our throats. I miss the times of a single banner below a video. I don’t think Google and all the others realise just how much determined nerds can achieve. So far the ad blockers seem to win the race, minus some minor setbacks.
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Yep. My day job is providing tools to marketing folks and improving lead gen. It pays me well.
But I also contribute to open source projects to unfuck the internet. I know the tricks people like me use.
Real heroes have shitty day jobs. Checks out.
Except Batman and Iron Man. Those guys also have mansions, hot chicks, cars, and sarcasm.
I want all of that fun stuff, not a boring day job
Oooooooo, is this the start of a RATM parody?
BLOCKING IN THE NAME OF
FUCK YOU I WON’T LOOK AT YOUR ADVERTS
Should be good to bad, not bad to good
It was October Spooky when Microsoft dropped the GetWinX.exe icon on everyone’s Win7 and Win8 taskbars. The first time, we all followed the directions and dove into the registry to remove it, because it wasn’t enough to just delete it. The icon would self restore.
Then Microsoft reinstalled their adware in a critical security update Big Mic also started using dark patterns making upgrading opt-out, and hiding the onay anksthay toggle.
Thats when an engineer, UltimateOutsider, I think, created the GetWinX Control Panel which not only did the full remove in a wizard but also monitored on boot to see if it came back.
It was a reassuring day. I think no matter how much the companies enshittify, it will only drive pissed off engineers to write hard bypasses. It’s how we got the GCP. It’s how we got Windows Loader for every release since XP’s activation process.
That kind of shit is why I run GNU, and so should everybody else.
You don’t run gnu; you probably run Linux. In the same sense, you don’t mention how you ride the tires to work but you probably mention riding a bicycle, bus or car. You go to see art, not the tools used to create it, and this is why van gogh’s art is on display and not the brushes he used to such great effect.
Keep it in perspective no matter how hard the feet-picker wants to distract you.
No, I run GNU. I don’t give a fuck whether the kernel is Linux or HURD, but I do care that as much of the system as possible is copyleft instead of merely permissive.
Well this whole exchange was definitely the dumbest pedantry I’ve seen today.
Well done.
When youtube started, the ads would load perfectly every single time and the video was a tiresome afterthought that would load in fits and starts if it loaded at all.
That sounds like every streaming service
I use an ad blocker but I cringe when I see my wife viewing a short recipe online, on a page with 10+ ads.
Why don’t you help her? Do you not like her??
She’s drowning and you’re just standing there watching :( :(
You’re assuming I haven’t tried?
Ah. Ginger spouses, am I right?
I’ve offered. It doesn’t bother my partner.
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I wouldn’t intrude but I’d at least offer.
I get to choose what software my wives PC runs and how, and she gets to not worry about problems on it.
We’ll, for the most part. She insists on Windows and I insist that every time something is wrong it’s Windows fault.
Hook your wife up
I’m totally shocked when I see people using browsers without an ad blocker, mind blowing
Now on mobile they even open up the sidebar where the playlist normally is and puts an extra ad there too. Then it breaks your fullscreen and youre left with the comments open and a banner ad. So dumb.
This. Ads can be somewhat okay as long as they don’t interrupt or otherwise hinder the functionality of the website or application I’m using.
YouTube’s video ads interrupt the main functionality of the website for the full duration of the ads (some are skippable after 5s).
In the early days of the Internet, ads were ok.
Then the popups came.
Then came the popup blockers.
It’s been an arms race since the beginning. The ad-throwers get greedy, not knowing when to stop pushing. That’s how things escalate.
The pop-up divs annoy the fuck out of me. And most websites have gotten smart about them by creating the div ids on the fly so ublock can take them on.
I’m getting close to completely disabling JavaScript at this rate.
I started using noscript on my phone despite how annoying it is to use day to day. Desktop have more tools to manage pop ups better, but on mobile the only reliable way I’ve found is to nuke everything and just re enable what you need.
As a matter of principle I will doff my headphones and look away or hyperfocus on the specific area to skip the ad waiting for it to become available.
Greed
While I think this may play a part, YouTube was unprofitable for more than a decade and probably still is right now. It’s not greedy to want to pay server costs
My company is heavily considering raising premium prices because ad revenue is now equal to the subscription cost, and we’re still very unprofitable. That’s not greedy, that’s basic business
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How about you just pay for services then?
We do, look at all this data we let them harvest
It’s not the most appealing option, but it might just work as long as the service is good.
if they come for yt-dlp i will record their videos with a fucking VCR and clip out the ads so help me god
If I’m provoked to retaliation, my tactic would be to start aggressively mirroring other people’s content to PeerTube.
I haven’t done so yet out of respect for the creators, but my patience with Google is wearing thinner and thinner…
I’ve got a vcr in my closet, I don’t know why, but maybe their days are coming back.
I’ve got a Betamax at home. One day I’ll pick up a tape, to see if it works.
I read this in Brandon Rogers as Bobby Worst voice.
Put that candy back down I ain’t buying you that meth
I can’t watch YouTube without getting ads with some gravy seal in camo walking around in the woods telling me there’s a storm coming.
Who’s allowing these clowns to spread their propaganda?
YouTube. Obviously.
And the rest of us are, too.
I don’t know what a “gravy seal” is, but I’m trying to picture it and I’m kinda laughing to myself
Imagine a fat, old, or otherwise unfit civilian who has purchased tactical-looking gear and weapons, which he uses for aggressive posturing. That’s my understanding of the term.
Pretty much spot on. This imaginary man also owns a truck too big to park and will assault you for being gay and/or brown. People just like him populate moderate swaths of the American South and make other minor appearances farther north.
People just like him populate moderate swaths of the American South and make other minor appearances farther north.
People like him populate rural America everywhere. The South is just slightly more rural than other parts of the country.
Member of Meal Team 6, Vanilla ISIS, or Y’all Qaeda. Usually drives a pavement princess.
Seriously!! I don’t mind the frequency so much as the absolute SHIT they’re serving up. Conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory. I’ve been skipping some of my favorite creators because I just don’t have the emotional wherewithal to deal with the bullshit every five minutes. It is truly enraging.
I also got a Nebula subscription. It’s not perfect, and I wish more of the people I follow were on there, but it helps so much, mentally. I don’t have to see crappy ads I didn’t sign up for, or feel guilty for using an ad blocker, because the people I follow are getting paid through the subscription.
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So many ads seems like Powerthrist turned down to 70% but lacking the irony.
Google must be scraping the bottom of the barrel of crazy that’s also stupid enough to pay for ads, I think it’s common knowledge now that Google games analytics to artificially inflate the appearance of ad impact.
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I don’t think they need to be pushy, just the quality of product decisions has been going down as time goes on. Monopoly a bigger issue for sure, If not for the massive decline in value to both users and advertisers, we wouldn’t mind the monopoly so much.
These ads make it impossible to use YT as a free learning platform anymore.
When I want to dig into a subject, I want to do it focused and without being distracted, and YT makes it impossible. The only content one can tolerate ads on is entertainment, which makes YT just another TikTok.
Currently sharing piped.video with every single educator there is. There should NEVER FUCKING EVER be ads on educational videos. Youtube is run by POS’s and greedy shitfaces.
Well, it’s owned by Google…so…
Just use unlock origin? It works for me.
Then pay for your learning ;)
Call me a dirty communist but I think education should be accessible to all regardless of socio-economic status.
A well educated population is better for Democracy, better for the human species and society.
I agree with you, dirty communist.
I am also a dirty communist named Bort
HI Bort welcoe to dirt-loving communists
I completely agree, but that’s what a government is for.
Your original post definitely implied that it’s the individuals burden.
Where I come from, education is free. So, nope!
YouTube is free as well ;)
Time is money. Ain’t nobody got time for YT ads
That’s just called entitlement.
I’m sorry, let me whip out the world’s tiniest violin for one of the world’s most powerful tech giants.
No, you’re just ignoring reality and circle jerking.
Or that could be the number one thing that the government subsidizes, instead of how to kill more people. Learning should be the first thing that’s free after food, water, and shelter.
I live in the Philippines and get ads for cock fighting.
I live in Canada and gets ads for Philippino cock.
Guess YouTube figured out your algorithm.
I have a VPN set to Sweden as the default country. I have weird ads, I don’t know what they are selling.
In America we just call that gay porn
Hi! We’re Liberty Mutual! All of our ads are weird and quirky, which is funny! Quirky equals funny, right? You’re laughing, aren’t you? This one has an emu! An emu is funny, isn’t it? Liberty Mutual!
haven’t watched an ad in almost a decade lol
Seriously, how are people able to consume YouTube content as well as their ads? Piped + SponsorBlock + DeArrow and that’s a wrap, jack.
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I followed the GitHub link for Piped, care to explain what I’m looking at?
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Don’t see mention of Invidious in here so may as well share.
Like piped - front end for youtube. No ads.
hey is there anyway to watch 1080p videos? using https://yewtu.be/
You can do that with yt.whateveritworks.org which is an Invidious instance
I know it’s not, but that totally looks like the domain of a porn site.
Baby, you’re going to get piped so hard.
Not only the way they keep pushing more and more ads is becoming way too much, they don’t have any standards for what sort of ads they push. From blatant political propaganda to petty false advertising of apps. A reckoning is way overdue.
Fuck YouTube
This is why I avoid the steam in-game web browser like t͟h͟e͟ P͟L͟A͟G͟U͟E͟
Well we learned from COVID that a lot of people don’t really avoid the plague much. Time to update the idiom I think.
Avoid like… the doctor ? like the urgent warnings of the scientific community ?
Chumba casino ads are the so dystopian and bleak it’s like I’m listening to an ad in a GTA game.
Weirdly, and annoyingly, I get this same thing when watching YouTube on my TV (the quantity thing, not the war propaganda stuff. Just regular ads). Whether via Roku stick, Chromecast or anything. It’s sometimes an ad every 2 minutes. However watching the same thing on a laptop or my phone even without any adblock and the video will play far better. Maybe 1 ad at the halfway point and nothing else.
I don’t know why the TV version of YouTube is such an arse for ads. They’re not even in clean places - I get an ad mid-sentence.
Honestly, for a 20 minute video I’d be perfectly ok with a 30 second ad or so. It helps the creators and isn’t that much of a pain for me. But getting adverts every 2 minutes, even if they’re skippable is just a horrific experience.
The time and set duration for their ads is based on viewer habits, so they are basically banking that you are too lazy to skip it or are out of the room and they can still claim they ran the whole ad.
Recently in a 5 minute video an ad came up that showed it was an hour and 10 minutes long. There is no good reason for that garbage
Dude with kids cartoons it’s horrible. 5+ min ads disguised as cartoons for 2min videos. It’s absurd.
If you use the kids YouTube app then there are no ads. On tv, you can use the regular YouTube app to switch to your child’s account and then no more ads.
Good to know. I just run freetube these days lol
I’ve noticed that as well. Its like YouTube is adding in extra ads for Roku et al. for their own profit…
Try SmartTube https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube
Thanks, but I can’t install into a Roku, which is the main TV I’d be using.