• The2b@lemmy.vg
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    This is just going to be used to allow fascist propaganda, isn’t it?

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      I assume you mean fascist propaganda over and above the right wing rabbit holes that already exist on YouTube….

      Ugh, this is terrible.

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      Yep. It’s exactly what Facebook did not long ago. It’s just the most open oligarchy you can imagine, just consolidating their interests to push fascism at full throttle.

      Its gonna be interesting, knowing some world cup is gonna happen on US soil as well.

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      Well yes. You obviously still can’t say “le dollar bean” without getting nuked from orbit. YouTube is a goodly Christian corporation after all, can’t have such content.

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    Intention: YouTubers can stop with the whole self censoring shit.

    Example: Unaliving; PDF file; grape; etc.

    Reality: Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and other right wing grifters receive zero censorship while YouTubers still have to self censor to receive monetization.

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        They won’t ever say it out loud but they have always removed videos for mentioning alternative frontends or other technology they view as direct threats to their revenue stream.

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        How long before Google locks YT down to loading only on Chrome, and only on Windows, Mac, ChromeOS, or Android, and only without ad blockers of any kind, including hardware ad blockers like PiHole being implemented anywhere, and straight-up blocking it from loading at all on non-Chrome browsers (to also include other Chromium browsers) and on Linux or iOS, and enforcing TPM2 and SecureBoot mandates for authentication, and blocking downloading and re-uploading of YT vids, using DRM?

        Basically, I wouldn’t put it above them to ensure their video platform only runs on their browser, and only on hardware that they deem worthy of running it, even if it means somehow implementing a Vanguard-style rootkit. Something else I wouldn’t put it past Google to try, is completely discontinuing the YT browser client and fully locking the API down to the official app, and still implementing a Vanguard-style rootkit on that.

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      Actual reality: Right-wing grifters are already on a “whitelist”, as long as they also talk about lower taxes, lessening regulations and worker’s protections, and also got popular enough. Source: knew a former moderator for Google.

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    “Free speech” under capitalism means the freedom to promote fascism, rascism, misogyny, homophobia, genocide, etc…

    But if you post half a second of a Disney movie, your account will be permanently deleted.

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    See the issue here is Google/Youtube still get to be the ones to decide what “may outweigh the harm risk”. And the answer I bet will usually be whichever one serves their financial interests.

    Which on one hand sure, it is their platform after all. But don’t do me dry and claim you used lube.

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    This is such bad news. I’m sympathetic to content creators who have to step on eggshells to please the algorithm/advertisers… But this?

    Yeah, this is not that. We all know who this is for.

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      almost all the right wing contents get pushed to the front. there are some that are also rw that is buried by the algorithim, because they are loud mouths, i wonder if this will change for them too.,

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    We will (still) allow children’s cartoon characters to be mutilated and put into explicit situations and then push them as child friendly, but how dare you use a swear in the first 15 seconds of a video or say the work kill.

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    Great, now that 50% of a video can be a direct call for genocide, does that at LEAST mean I can use ONE instance of a “bad” word or speak of “icky” things like death and drug abuse without being demonized?

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    I still wouldn’t trust Google not to nuke my channel on a whim even in spite of those relaxed moderation rules. What’s stopping a little bribe from the right company or political party from causing them to backpedal or even tighten their grip further?

    This is why one should at least mirror their content to PeerTube or a similar alternative platform like that even if they’re not going to just outright post future content to said alternative and give up on YT altogether.

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      I agree. We’ve seen enough times in the past where a creator would get a strike from a video several years old because the rules changes. Anyone legit should be careful.

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        Slope’s Game Room is about to lose his channel over ‘hate speech’ that isn’t even his. One more reason for me to not post any future video content to YT if I ever seriously get into making vids and instead just posting everything to PeerTube where it at least isn’t in danger of getting nuked because Google got pissed at me.

        Update: he got to keep his channel. Still one more reason to not put any future content on YT should I pick up video content creation though.

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        i saw that on a channel i used to follow, they were getting strike so they had to take it down. kinda hoping they would give them the last strike, because turned into trump loving shitheels

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      they dont need to nuke your channel, they just bury your videos with thier algorithim, this is what pushed many smaller content creators off youtube in the pass. a channel i used to follow, i would have to painstakingly search it through other videos that arnt even related to it.

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    Introducing: Pay More, Say More

    Surely this can’t become deeply problematic for the social fabric.

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    Moderators were previously told to remove videos if one-quarter or more of the content violated YouTube policies. Now, that limit has been increased to half.

    This seems like alien speak to me. They announce that shit, someone read it, and then repeated it in an article. But what does it mean?

    Can you have 6 contents and make 2 really crazy? Can you tell people to commit violence for 5 minutes and then review a game for 6 minutes? Is there a dude with tvtropes open going through and marking the contents of content?

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      It depends on who is being targeted.

      If you make a video calling for attacks on women, palestinians, gay people, etc., that’s all good!

      If you talk about taxing rich people, that’s extreme violence. Immediate ban.

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      I’ve worked for TnS at a different company.

      I would guess it is likely per video, or they have multiple types of review going over it on a per video basis and then also maybe the channel as a whole?

      So you could have half of any video contain the violating content, and it would be clear.

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    Videos are allowed if “freedom of expression value may outweigh harm risk”

    oh it’s that easy huh. why didn’t we think of this before lol.