• Queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 months ago

    The only issues I have (currently, until proven wrong) with DIscovery with the Spore Drive and other technological things, is that it didn’t seem to have an answer for why the Federation didn’t use it later. I do know that in the timeskip season, a log does not mention the use of the s-drive.

    But man I can only imagine how pissed Admiral Janeway would have been to find out it exists.

    Plus I can’t hate a show that has Doug Jones in it. I didn’t get into Discovery, but I don’t hate it.

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      it didn’t seem to have an answer for why the Federation didn’t use it later.

      Well, you need to either find and enslave an exotic space tardigrade in order to navigate the network, or illegally splice said tardigrade’s DNA into your own.

      And even then, navigation is pretty challenging, and can result in accidental time and/or interdimensional travel.

      And a malfunction has the potential to destroy all life in the multiverse.

      And both ships that had the prototypes installed were lost within about a year.

      Take your pick, really.

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        11 months ago

        For the reward of instantaneous travel, I’m sure the Federation could muddle its way through amending a 100 year old law. The rest of the points don’t seem all that different than the complications we see our heroes regularly encounter exploring the galaxy. And none of them were enough to convince the crew of the Discovery to stop using the spore drive for the rest of the series.

        Don’t get me wrong, I love Discovery anyway. Trek is full of miracle technologies that go conveniently forgotten. Janeway has no reason to be miffed given that she sat on an infinite speed drive herself, which had no downside that the doctor wouldn’t have been able to cure after it took them home.

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        And a malfunction has the potential to destroy all life in the multiverse.

        I didn’t like that part at all. An infinite multiverse, which they state in DSC is the case, means that anything with a probability greater than zero is guaranteed. Mathematically, the multiverse should have already been wiped out at some point. It’s also a throwaway line meant to increase dramatic tension for all of ten seconds before the scene ends, and an empty threat given that following through would end the show.

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          Maybe it’s like vacuum decay; yes, it’s already happened, but maybe it doesn’t propagate instantly. There are expanding pockets of dead universes around where malfunctions occurred, but the Multiverse, in its infinite size, means that these pockets are also infinitesimally small compared to it.

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        11 months ago

        Yyyyyyeahhh genetic modification has been a BIG NO-NO in trek canon since the 1990s eugenics wars, right…?

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          11 months ago

          That didn’t stop Bashir’s parents. If regular parents can make it happen it for their below average child, a Dr Noonian Soong type will be all over it.

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        11 months ago

        Fair enough. Tho I’m sure Janeway would still consider using Tuvix for that one editing your DNA thing.

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          Spock flat-out said it at the end of “Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2”, albeit with a focus on the time travel shenanigans of the second season:

          Regulation 157, Section 3 requires Starfleet officers to abstain from participating in historical events. Any residual trace or knowledge of Discovery’s data, or the time suit, offers a foothold for those who might not see how critical, how deeply critical, that directive is.

          Therefore, to insure the Federation never finds itself facing the same danger, all officers remaining with knowledge of these events must be ordered never to speak of Discovery, its spore drive, or her crew again, under penalty of treason.

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      11 months ago

      I can look past the mycelial network. I just can’t tolerate some of the characters. And unfortunately they decided to focus on one main character. And that character’s main feature is to cry throughout the entire series, despite being raised by vulcans. Also the pacing of the show is very annoying. It’s high tension drama, all the time.

      I watched the whole thing. There were some episodes that kinda gave me hope. Those usually were the ones that weren’t part of the main plot. But the next episode it went back to the same dramatic formula.

      Oh, and Tilly. What the hell man? How did she get into Starfleet??

      That said, I’m happy people enjoy it! It’s just not for me.

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      All it would take is a Short Trek where someone rediscovers the network and encounters a group of advanced beings living there, who explain that it has been closed to current warp-capable beings because they have proven themselves not ready for the privilege yet.

      Discovery was like Alexander the Great stumbling onto warp drive.

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      11 months ago

      For that matter, they didn’t even use it well at the time. Their accuracy of jumping with the spore drive was shown to be good enough that they could jump inside the shield bubble of every Klingon supply base, launch a bunch of torpedoes, and get out. War = done.