• barbarosa@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Personally, I definitely support the right of Palestinians to exist. They should have their own state and live peacefully side by side to Israel. Unfortunately both Israelis and Palestinians are plagued by horrible leadership that prevent any of this from happening

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      11 months ago

      How can you live side by side with a state that tortures kids in prison? I mean how do you live peacefully and with dignity in a state that - - through its different leaderships since it’s founding days - - has been detaining people illegally? That doesn’t believe in Palestinians’ right to return or right to a decent life? How do you live side by side your murderers and jailers and torturers when they make no attempt to punish the wrongdoers or the settlers or all those assholes in the IDF who humiliate Palestinians at every chance? I’m seriously asking.

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        11 months ago

        I condemn all such behavior. Extremists on both sides are setting the tone unfortunately. I can assure you that Israelis are asking the same questions as they keep seeing the videos of rape and murder in a loop since October 7.

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          11 months ago

          I sometimes wonder if Israelis are exposed to Palestinian suffering as much as Israeli suffering, but a woman raped and killed on October 7th can never be more important than thousands of children with their bones crushed under the rubble.

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            11 months ago

            No, each side is in a propaganda echo chamber.

            No death or suffering is more or less important than others.

            No one ( well, almost no one) in Israel wants to see innocent civilians getting killed.

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              11 months ago

              I don’t know, but every time I look at the Times of Israel, they clearly hide Gazan casualties or casually claim 7k of them were terrorists

              You say all these things but I can’t get myself to believe you. 😅

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                11 months ago

                I’m saying exactly that, there’s a propaganda echo chamber and information on the other side is very little so not sure where we disagree on that

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                  11 months ago

                  We don’t disagree on that. I just can’t get myself to respect your views that’s all. 😊

                  You say in one place that death and suffering of all are equal yet your other arguments speak of the opposite. Sounds like lip service to me.