• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 months ago

    do you think they would be willing to recognize that right for others? they certainly don’t act that way, now.

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      11 months ago

      Just because they’re incapable of being moral agents, i.e. capable of understanding why murder is wrong, doesn’t make it OK to murder them. A toddler would happily push you off a cliff, but that doesn’t give you the right to push toddlers off cliffs.

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        11 months ago

        A toddler would happily push you off a cliff, but that doesn’t give you the right to push toddlers off cliffs.

        right, but the thing that makes it wrong to push a toddler off a cliff may not apply to non-human animals.

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          11 months ago

          Like what? What criteria would allow for toddlers to be given moral consideration that would exclude animals?

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                    11 months ago

                    ok well that line of argument falls prey to a line-drawing fallacy. there is a clear difference between people and non-human animals. even if there is no singular trait, or no less-than-complete set of traits that we can point to as the distinguishing mark, it is obvious that there is a difference or we wouldn’t discriminate between humans and non-human animals.

                    SINCE THAT IS NOT WHERE YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE HEADING

                    i would just say “we’re human” and, in light of the rebuttal to the NTT argument (which you weren’t conciously advancing), i think it’s that is sufficient.