• Impound4017@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    I’m honestly not sure we can truly say that Hamas ‘instigated’ this situation in good faith, as this is merely the most recent flare-up in a long history of atrocities that goes both ways. That doesn’t excuse what Hamas has done either, but I also wouldn’t consider shelling civilian buildings to be a particularly defensive action.

    People aren’t trying to ‘bind Israel’s hands before they can achieve meaningful military objectives’ they’re trying to bind Israel’s hands before they can commit more atrocities. These atrocities are being actively supported by US taxpayer dollars, and the sentiment among voters (at least the ones I know) is that US support means that we have blood on our hands by association. That’s not something I’m willing to support, and voters shouldn’t feel bad for not supporting it either.

    Nothing about this mass casualty event should be considered a foregone conclusion. All we can do is try and stop this cycle of violence from being perpetuated.

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      11 months ago

      Causing, “the most recent flare-up,” is instigating as it regards to this specific conflict.

      I also wouldn’t consider shelling civilian buildings to be a particularly defensive action.

      IDF claims they level buildings used by Hamas, however there are anonymous accounts that say that can mean any connection no matter how slight will suffice; a Hamas member living in their family apartment might lead to the entire building being leveled. This might make it technically a legal military target, but there’s legitimate criticism to be made of such strategies. I suspect Israel is hitting Gaza hard while they still can to create a buffer zone and/or to discourage future attacks.

      People aren’t trying to ‘bind Israel’s hands before they can achieve meaningful military objectives’ they’re trying to bind Israel’s hands before they can commit more atrocities.

      This invasion and all the destruction will have all been for naught if they do not take out Hamas before they leave, or at very least change the situation in a way that denies intifada groups the ability to launch future attacks. If they blow up infrastructure and leave them in charge, it’s a half-measure, and just a matter of time before the next attack. It would be Pyrrhic victory for Hamas.

      the sentiment among voters (at least the ones I know) is that US support means that we have blood on our hands by association. That’s not something I’m willing to support, and voters shouldn’t feel bad for not supporting it either.

      Yes, sadly I believe the electorate just sees asymmetrical warfare and assumes the underdog is worth cheering for without understanding the context.

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        11 months ago

        a Hamas member living in their family apartment might lead to the entire building being leveled.

        Oh I see, so you’re okay with the whole family dying. Now I understand what a sick fuck you are.

        Let’s sya your cousin works for the Hamas government… Because he has a governmental job, so they bomb the home you are sheltering and starving in and you, your niece, your mother, your father, your grandfather, and all your children die. Is this acceptable?

        I already know the answer: Yes. To you, it must be acceptable.