• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    11 months ago

    You will never get a 3rd party going. Perot had the best chance in '92 and only ensured Clinton got elected.

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          11 months ago

          Congratulations on throwing away your vote

          You’re doing way worse than throwing away your vote, you’re voting FOR genocide. If you and other Dem voters who want to feel good about yourself weren’t cowards and voted Green we wouldn’t be perpetuating a genocide in the first place.

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            You’re doing way worse than throwing away your vote, you’re voting FOR genocide.

            no, a vote for biden or a republican is a vote for genocide. a vote against both of them is a vote against genocide.

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            Any vote is for genocide. You’re voting for either a self avowed zionist (Biden) a literal Nazi (Trump) or throwing away your vote to allow the literal Nazi to win.

            Those are your ONLY choices.

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              11 months ago

              throwing away your vote to allow the literal Nazi to win.

              last time i voted green and biden won. what is the mechanic by which trump will win this time?

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                what is the mechanic by which trump will win this time

                Not choosing a dog in this fight of the conversation overall, but to answer your point specifically, if the youth vote stays home and doesn’t vote.

                Last election Biden won in key States by a few thousands of votes, with a high amount of young voters voting in those states.

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                what is the mechanic by which trump will win this time?

                A closer race? It ain’t rocket science.

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                  11 months ago

                  my vote made Joe Biden win last time by the logic I’ve seen here. I’m going to keep voting for people who oppose genocide.

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                    11 months ago

                    You act like there was a non-genocide option. Once Hamas did that attack, there was no stopping the crazy right wing Israeli government from doing what they are doing.

                    So what? The US should take a hard line against Israel anyways, even if it does no good, right? Great, so Israel is removed from the US sphere of influence and goes shopping for a new sugar daddy. That would be China, or more likely Russia. Now Russia is chummy with both Israel and Iran, which has the inconvenient little side effect that the Palestinians will lose the support of Iran. But who cares about the Palestinians anyways.

                    Any hope the US had of restraining Israel in any way whatsoever is contingent on our continued support. Without that, we have no influence and someone else steps in.

                    I’m not claiming that Biden has handled this perfectly, but the general direction he has gone has been in the best interest of saving as many Palestinian lives as possible. There are no clean hands in foreign policy.

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              Those are your ONLY choices.

              False. I won’t be voting for genocide unlike you. A vote for Jill Stein is 100x more productive to Palestinian liberation.

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                A vote for Jill Stein helps elect Trump. Congrats, you just voted for genocide. Only here.

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                    Any vote not for Biden helps Trump win because nobody, literally nobody else can beat Trump.

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                  A vote for Jill Stein helps elect Trump

                  No one voting Stein would ever vote Biden so that’s untrue. A tired old argument that’s lost it’s luster, just like all your arguments for voting for Biden.