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minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up6arrow-down2·11 months agoIt’s ok to hold your opinion, but it is not realistic with the game theory actually occuring. I’m not supporting the system that makes this so, I’m only informing you of what is happening, what is real life. Your only real choices are the 2 frontrunners. Any non-trump vote for anyone but Biden aids the trump campaign as much as staying home.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4arrow-down3·11 months ago Your only real choices are the 2 frontrunners. i expect to have at least 4 real choices on my ballot.
minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4arrow-down2·11 months agoReal as I’m with a statistical chance of winning.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down4·11 months agothey’re not real choices if i don’t want them to win. a bullet to the left knee or a bullet to the right knee isn’t a real choice.
minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·11 months agoYes, it is. Both painful choices.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·11 months agoi’m going to choose something else, and if my neighbors make the painful choices, that’s not my fault. i know who to blame.
minus-squareBlue_Morpho@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down1·11 months agoAh, a both sides are equally bad. Right.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down3·11 months agooh, you know what? maybe it’s the option of having my foot crushed or amputated. one isn’t quite as bad but neither is really something i’ll be choosing given any other choice.
minus-squareBlue_Morpho@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·11 months agoYep, both sides bad. Right on.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down4·11 months agoyes. both sides ARE bad.
minus-squareBlue_Morpho@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·11 months ago“Trump’s presidency was the same as Biden’s. Trump’s promise of dictatorship is the same as Biden’s status quo.” You’ve shown your cards, comrade.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4arrow-down3·11 months ago It’s ok to hold your opinion that’s very gracious of you.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down2·11 months ago Any non-trump vote for anyone but Biden aids the trump campaign as much as staying home. right. but the same is true in reverse: any non-biden vote for anyone but trump aids the biden campaign as much as staying home. because that’s how voting works. when you don’t vote for someone, you don’t help their campaign.
minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4arrow-down1·11 months agoPlease go learn what spoilers are. The spoiler is attached to what it is nearest. For example, if desantis ran as an independent, he would be a trump spoiler. Splitting republican votes, and harming Trump’s chances of winning.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down2·11 months agoyou’re talking down to me like i haven’t voted against every president who has won since 2012.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down3·11 months ago Please go learn what spoilers are. this is condescending. i know what democrats and republicans call spoilers. i also know that they both want to preserve their own power.
minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·11 months agoAnd effectively, who you are voting FOR
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·11 months agoand who i am actually voting for. tell me, when i voted for howie hawkins, was i really voting for biden?
minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·11 months agoWhoever the 3rd party was ideologically closest to, you were voting for the OTHER frontrunner. As the green party is CLOSEST to the Democratic party, you effectively voted Republican by taking a left leaning vote off the table.
It’s ok to hold your opinion, but it is not realistic with the game theory actually occuring.
I’m not supporting the system that makes this so, I’m only informing you of what is happening, what is real life.
Your only real choices are the 2 frontrunners.
Any non-trump vote for anyone but Biden aids the trump campaign as much as staying home.
i expect to have at least 4 real choices on my ballot.
Real as I’m with a statistical chance of winning.
they’re not real choices if i don’t want them to win. a bullet to the left knee or a bullet to the right knee isn’t a real choice.
Yes, it is.
Both painful choices.
i’m going to choose something else, and if my neighbors make the painful choices, that’s not my fault. i know who to blame.
Ah, a both sides are equally bad. Right.
oh, you know what? maybe it’s the option of having my foot crushed or amputated. one isn’t quite as bad but neither is really something i’ll be choosing given any other choice.
Yep, both sides bad. Right on.
yes. both sides ARE bad.
“Trump’s presidency was the same as Biden’s. Trump’s promise of dictatorship is the same as Biden’s status quo.”
You’ve shown your cards, comrade.
that’s very gracious of you.
right. but the same is true in reverse: any non-biden vote for anyone but trump aids the biden campaign as much as staying home.
because that’s how voting works. when you don’t vote for someone, you don’t help their campaign.
Please go learn what spoilers are.
The spoiler is attached to what it is nearest.
For example, if desantis ran as an independent, he would be a trump spoiler. Splitting republican votes, and harming Trump’s chances of winning.
you’re talking down to me like i haven’t voted against every president who has won since 2012.
this is condescending. i know what democrats and republicans call spoilers. i also know that they both want to preserve their own power.
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And effectively, who you are voting FOR
and who i am actually voting for. tell me, when i voted for howie hawkins, was i really voting for biden?
Whoever the 3rd party was ideologically closest to, you were voting for the OTHER frontrunner.
As the green party is CLOSEST to the Democratic party, you effectively voted Republican by taking a left leaning vote off the table.