Yes, I am definitely sure it was all Amerikkka’s fault, Afghanistan definitely hasn’t always been a dirt poor country for the past 200 years and also definitely didn’t spent most of the 70s and all of the 80s and 90s locked in brutal civil wars, and definitely has a united national culture that made running a functional national government easy.
Also I love the part where we were colonizing Afghanistan and dictating their internal policies. God, it’s so great that we thought Islam was so amazing that we made it a crime to apostatize from it. Wait, or are we supposed to be the Christian Crusaders imposing our faith on Muslim countries? I can never keep all the things we’re accused of doing straight.
If you think the economic situation in Afghanistan is due to the US… well, that’s about the understanding of Afghanistan’s historical and present circumstances I expect from someone who treats international politics like a religion and says “Well, I don’t agree with the Taliban closing schools for women and ‘other things’, BUT… have you considered, America bad?”
In 2000 the Afghani was worth 75,000 to 1 USD. During ISAF occupation it was fixed at 50 to 1. It is now at 70 to 1 and dropping. Let’s stick to one argument at a time rather than playing the whataboutism game. You said the USA destroyed their economy, yet the evidence strongly says otherwise. Before 2001, Afghanistan was the second poorest country in the world. When ISAF pulled out it was ranked at about 40 (I say ‘about’ because it was still growing and changing faster and the rankings were uptated). In the short time of Taliban rule they have dropped back down to sub 33 with exact number still to be determined. (The sub 33 ranking is important because there are only 33 countries on the UN “least developed countries” list).
I would spend time debating topics like this with educated people and those that are open minded, but you do not seem like you fit either group. Do not expect a reply.
Seems to me that with western money drying up due to not wanting to give cash to the Taliban, things are going back to what they were before the US invasion.
The US is under no obligation to give an enemy money held by the Federal Reserve. Also, the Taliban shares no blame for that war torn state? They weren’t exactly paragons of good governance last time either. Maybe if they spent more time working on economic development instead of executing thieves and beating women for going to school I’d be marginally less critical of their regime.
I’m saying that the US naively tried and failed to nation build in Afghanistan. Trillions were spent on infrastructure and schools which was in hindsight a failure. Afghanistan was war torn before, during, and now after US occupation.
America setting up tonnes of military bases, killing the government and then replacing and dictating the entire governance with their own peons means that it colonized Afghanistan, it didn’t just influence it.
Imagine being so dense that you’d simp for the fucking Taliban.
At least they had something like a secular state and law in place during their occupation. Making it possible for women to attend universities or minorities to simply exist.
The fact that the occupiers didn’t manage to solve every single problem in this war torn and split up country with no common ground doesn’t mean it wasn’t a net positive. Which it 100% was for everyone but the Taliban.
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Imagine simping for the Taliban because international politics is a religion to you, and America is the Great Satan.
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Yes, I am definitely sure it was all Amerikkka’s fault, Afghanistan definitely hasn’t always been a dirt poor country for the past 200 years and also definitely didn’t spent most of the 70s and all of the 80s and 90s locked in brutal civil wars, and definitely has a united national culture that made running a functional national government easy.
Also I love the part where we were colonizing Afghanistan and dictating their internal policies. God, it’s so great that we thought Islam was so amazing that we made it a crime to apostatize from it. Wait, or are we supposed to be the Christian Crusaders imposing our faith on Muslim countries? I can never keep all the things we’re accused of doing straight.
If you think the economic situation in Afghanistan is due to the US… well, that’s about the understanding of Afghanistan’s historical and present circumstances I expect from someone who treats international politics like a religion and says “Well, I don’t agree with the Taliban closing schools for women and ‘other things’, BUT… have you considered, America bad?”
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In 2000 the Afghani was worth 75,000 to 1 USD. During ISAF occupation it was fixed at 50 to 1. It is now at 70 to 1 and dropping. Let’s stick to one argument at a time rather than playing the whataboutism game. You said the USA destroyed their economy, yet the evidence strongly says otherwise. Before 2001, Afghanistan was the second poorest country in the world. When ISAF pulled out it was ranked at about 40 (I say ‘about’ because it was still growing and changing faster and the rankings were uptated). In the short time of Taliban rule they have dropped back down to sub 33 with exact number still to be determined. (The sub 33 ranking is important because there are only 33 countries on the UN “least developed countries” list).
I would spend time debating topics like this with educated people and those that are open minded, but you do not seem like you fit either group. Do not expect a reply.
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Seems to me that with western money drying up due to not wanting to give cash to the Taliban, things are going back to what they were before the US invasion.
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The US is under no obligation to give an enemy money held by the Federal Reserve. Also, the Taliban shares no blame for that war torn state? They weren’t exactly paragons of good governance last time either. Maybe if they spent more time working on economic development instead of executing thieves and beating women for going to school I’d be marginally less critical of their regime.
I’m saying that the US naively tried and failed to nation build in Afghanistan. Trillions were spent on infrastructure and schools which was in hindsight a failure. Afghanistan was war torn before, during, and now after US occupation.
You use the words ‘colonialism’ and ‘imperialism’ but don’t seem to know what they mean.
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Imagine being so dense that you’d simp for the fucking Taliban. At least they had something like a secular state and law in place during their occupation. Making it possible for women to attend universities or minorities to simply exist.
The fact that the occupiers didn’t manage to solve every single problem in this war torn and split up country with no common ground doesn’t mean it wasn’t a net positive. Which it 100% was for everyone but the Taliban.
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If that is the best argument you can come up with you should probably take a look at your stance