• rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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    11 months ago

    That’s like saying that the best way to reduce harm from alcohol is to make good strong alcohol cheap so people wouldn’t drink eau-de-cologne and denaturate.

    Problems with alcohol are not limited to it sometimes being mixed with poison.

    Problems with cocaine didn’t start with it becoming illegal.

    Let’s please not talk as if it’s normal to consume it.

    EDIT: That said, I do sometimes consume alcohol.

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        11 months ago

        Let’s put it this way:

        I have a few relatives believing in folk medicine,

        a few other relatives believing in good holy USSR unfairly taken from us by evil fate,

        a friend believing in esoterics,

        a friend and a relative with alcoholism problems,

        an acquaintance doing prostitution,

        and some acquaintances believing in Russian neo-paganism (very far from actual Russian paganism) with all the history freakery attached,

        and probably I’d know some blowing coke if it weren’t a thing best kept secret here due to inhumane laws.

        That doesn’t mean any of those things are normal.

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            11 months ago

            Personally I find it weird how many more people do coke than smoke weed.

            But then even more people consume alcohol, again.

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          11 months ago

          Huh. You did a pretty good job destroying your own argument, its not often where I agree with someone before they convince me theyre wrong

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            11 months ago

            What the actual fuck are you talking about? The fall of USSR was the second best thing that ever happened to the country I was born in. The first was the end of nazi occupation. Although the negative consequences are still echoing through the entire eastern block.

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                11 months ago

                It’s after severe protests in pre-Nazi Germany and USSR that all major powers suddenly decided to shorten the work day from 10-12 hours to 8

                Some industries in the west has been adopting the 10 or 8 hour working day even before the soviet union has existed. And this is going to be only my personal speculations, but as the nature of the work itself has been changing over time, so did the time requirements.

                from 6 days a week to 5

                It’s funny that you mention that, because one thing that I distinctly remember from what my parents and grandparents has been telling me about the previous regime was something called “working saturday of honor”, when the workers were mandated to come work an extra day. Some of them were to compensate for the state holidays, some just to ramp up the productivity.

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            11 months ago

            On my part, for example - USSR wasn’t holy, but its demise instead of improvement is a giant tradegy that still negatively echoes in the world history.

            I agree, but that’s not the position I described.

            Someone else would say there’s nothing wrong with prostitution, for example.

            Definitely better than alcoholism.

            Some would point out folk medicine is not all entirely wrong even by medical science standards and it becomes a problem when patients ignore science in favor of unproven methods.

            The latter is what I meant exactly.

            And at the end of it, you end up with the comment that is half wrong, and the message poorly sent.

            That depends on reader’s interpretation, so you are basically ascribing your own choices to me. If something isn’t clear, it doesn’t mean you can pick the wrong variant and ascribe it to author of that comment. It just means you can ask.

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      11 months ago

      Problems with alcohol are not limited to it sometimes being mixed with poison.

      Alcohol IS a poison…