Reddit doesn’t actually own any of the content, right? Neither do any of the contributors? Seems like a good way to fuck Reddit.
There’s just no need anymore. Lemmy has boomed, and we have our own content. Reddit is not really relevant anymore.
Maybe. I’m finding the Lemmy content and platform features lacking personally. Some of my favorite subs don’t have an analogue here, and the clones here are significantly smaller and therefore have less content. I see great potential though, which is why I think “stealing” content is a sound strategy to grow. I find it interesting also, because there are two reasons people use Reddit: The content and the platform. One of those things isn’t actually owned by Reddit. So Lemmy has the distinct advantage in that there is already a good platform in place, and all the good content of Reddit (and half of it’s value) can be moved over here.
I mean, the content here lately is 15 year old memes.
A lot of the boom is people that were too lame to get karma on Reddit so they spam dumb things here now and get upvotes because everyone is still in “upvote everything to help the community” mode.
I think the key will be the adoption of all the sub-reddits coming here and producing the same quality content they do there.
I agree. I think that’s going to be the only way this shit works. I want it to work, but there needs to be more of a plan and effort than shitty memes from 2010. Everyone keeps saying “this isn’t reddit this isn’t reddit”, we’ll then why is the best content here on subreddit clone communities with the same banners and same rules? This needs to be more like Reddit, because that is only reason all of us are here.
Back in the days of shopping malls, you could travel and go to a mall in any city, and it would be virtually the same as a mall in any other city: same stores, same (or similar) restaurants in the food court, same teenagers trying desperately to impress each other… all shoved into a slightly different layout. It was kinda bleak. One reason we don’t just copy our content from somewhere else is that we don’t want to re-create this nightmare hellscape on the internet, where every new social network is a slightly different skin on the same content.
Lemmy is not Reddit. Please let Lemmy continue to not be Reddit. If you want to fuck Reddit, do it by not going to Reddit. Reddit doesn’t own the content, but the contributors do. (Read section 5 of the Reddit terms of use; when you post on Reddit, you retain ownership of your content and grant Reddit license to it.) When you repost their content without permission, you’re not fucking Reddit; you’re fucking them.
Help me understand how reposting fucks the content creators? They are simply having their labor exploited by Reddit. They aren’t being compensated for their work, and a billion dollar company is reaping all the financial benefits.
I feel like with all the protests the real core issue, or what people should be angry about was not really hammered home. Reddit is a business and Lemmy is not, right? Reddit’s business model relies on labor exploitation of not just the content creators, but the moderators. Reddit expects these people to work for them, but provides no pay and on top of that shows a general disregard, contempt and disgusting for those people who allow them to exist and make their execs rich. That is what I find most disgusting, and feel like this point was just glossed over by everyone that was pissed off by the whole api thing.
Because then we are just a cheap reddit clone. I’d rather see Lemmy continue developing on its own terms.
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Adding on to this: I’d rather see the Fediverse not become just Reddit 2.0. I personally very much like the vibes and communities we already got going on already.
The counter question is: why would that be an improvement?
For me, the stuff with the 3PAs was just a final straw; there were lots of ways Reddit had gone downhill from when I first joined several years ago. I was happy that they was finally a workable alternative that was young and could potentially grow without the bad things about Reddit.
My ex wife is an ex for a reason, I’d never ask my wife now to try to be more like my ex. We can do better.
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Theres plenty of bots doing that
fun fact, if you block the bots when you see them they go away :)
Fun fact, if you change the setting in your account to not see bot posts then they go away :)
Only for accounts actually labeled as a bot. Thats basically just a flag that can be turned on and off, someone who is going to make a bot for malicious purposes such as spamming content probably won’t flag it properly.
It would be bad form to make an account labeled as a bot and just post from it normally, right?
well, yes, i dont think there’s anything stopping you from doing that in any way. But the bot account flag is basically just honor system is my point. I wouldn’t expect it to be a rock-solid way to deal with bots. Only the good/non-malicious actors are going to properly label themselves.
