• DreamerofDays@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    Being loud and given attention, they can be the only example of “leftists” some people knowingly interact with.

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      10 months ago

      Yep, it serves the wealthy well for people like them to be the things people visualize when they picture “the left”.

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        10 months ago

        I picture the left as rich leftists who are evil, and poor leftists who are naive.

        And yes, I’m aware the left sees us that way too.

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          10 months ago

          Then you lack actual understanding of who leftist are and what they want. Which isn’t an attack against you or anything. Most people in Western societies have been mentally conditioned not. Including myself for the first 30 or so years of my life.

          For example, in the United States, Nancy pelosi gets treated as a leftist simply because she’s a Democrat. Despite being pretty far right. All because she’s slightly to the left of fascists in the Republican party. And granted she is socially more tolerant than Republicans. And while social tolerance is good. Social tolerance does not a leftist make. You can be a socially tolerant capitalist, or a bigoted socialist.

          Actual leftists don’t seek to be rich. And the further left you go the less likely to be rich in capitalist terms, you are. Leftist derive their wealth from a well functioning society.

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            10 months ago

            See to me it is just about smoothing out the extremes.

            We don’t get rich, but no one is poor.

            But like communism, it sounds great on paper, but real life examples of success are lacking

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              10 months ago

              Not necessarily. It’s that we tend to look in the wrong places and scales. And even then, because of how violent and oppressive capitalism and Leninism can be to perceived threats. Such groups tend not to advertise their existence.