• Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com
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    Except we’ll be able to afford it and even the government will enforce it.

    Imagine paying for kids, school, and so on before people can start working and then get like only 30 years of productivity before having to take care of them again for years and years?!

    Nah longevity will be sponsored and paid for by any not stupid country. How do we like to live our lives, that’s another matter ofc.

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      9 months ago

      Interesting take. Having well trained immortal slaves means stability. However those slaves may also live long enough to learn to think differently.

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      Nah longevity will be sponsored and paid for by any not stupid country.

      So you’re saying that only billionaires will be able to afford it in the US.

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      longevity will be sponsored and paid for by any not stupid country

      Yeah but our society IS stupid. On a larger scale we are acting with the intelligence of a slime mold, always growing towards where food or energy is and nothing else. It’s going to be patented which means monopolies or cartels are going to profit maximize it. Or are you some communist? You tankie??? :D I mean right now medicine and healthcare is for profit in the US which is stupid like you say.

      BTW we’re facing the same problem with climate change btw, thousands of improvement to reduce carbon emissions are going to be patented and min maxed for profit. PS: I’m still holding out hope that one day soon we’ll wake up and become sentient as a civilization.

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          Imagine you’d live long enough that learning all sorts of things is worth while. People might want to become much more educated and versatile and know how to grow their own food, repair, build and maintain their own appliances, know how to build a house, know how to manage a small business. And I think it would (relatively) quickly be followed by “hey we want to live and work in a fun way”.

          Right now you can just fool the next generation because they are just as susceptible to a new flavour of propaganda than the last generation.

          But yeah you’re right, overall it would be a huge boost to productivity. But it would also be a massive shift in power one way or the other (either enslavement for longevity drugs or empowerment and more desire for long term societal gains)

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      9 months ago

      Corporations will pay for their employees’ immortality, with a clause that said immortality belongs to the employer and if the contract is terminated they can revoke it retroactively.

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      You are assuming that “immortality” means you stay fit and can continue working.

      Maybe in this scenario immortality just means you are alive and conscious, but you lose your mental sharpness and all you can do is lay in bed.

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        9 months ago

        True, but the ongoing biotech revolution is aimed at repairing, so rejuvenation. Not just trying to just keep people alive like it is now.

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        It’d be a slightly interesting dystopia once people figured out how to use a demented, bedridden brain to mine cryptocurrency…

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    9 months ago

    Nah, the ultra rich assholes would still want to wipe their asses with all the resources in the world, just to ensure “the poor and undesirables” don’t get to use it before them.

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    Gods, you couldn’t pay me enough to live forever. I’m looking forward to dying.

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      Living forever is a curse for sure if you have no way out

      But living as long as you want in good health is for sure pretty awesome

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    oh hey that timberlake movie that wasnt called time is money because we live in the enshittified universe

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    Usual caveat: Only the Americans can’t afford it. Everybody else would get it courtesy of their govts

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    The other equivalent of this is a carbon capture technology that actually works. It’s also far-fetched from what we know yet.

    But the day it exists, capital will pour into it since it’s a way to get paid by subsidies for the rest of your life. And all you need to do to also to grow that sector is burn more fossil fuel and it works so long as government can tax people more. It’s kind of like having both the poison for the whole world, and the cure, and demanding ransom (while being paid for the poison).

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      First before carbon capture we would need to ban coal power plants

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    That puts too much blame on individuals instead of the system. These aren’t bad apples, the system isn’t broken. The system works as intended, it’s just that most of us are on the losing end. Also: there is no alternative.

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        I would specifically want the Mutualist kind, not the Marxist one. Direct stakeholder ownership helps keep things from being too bureaucratic and prevents a top-down power grabs.

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        I hope you know I don’t disagree with you. The system is unsustainable for sure, we need a new one. It can’t be fixed because there is no “fixed” or good or green capitalism (hence it’s not broken because it was never meant to be sustainable). My last sentence was a Thatcher quote I quoted ironically.